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There are no affiliate links at all. These are great recommendations, thanks for contributing! Also, we have the spreadsheets open for anyone to edit and contri

There are no affiliate links at all. These are great recommendations, thanks for contributing! Also, we have the spreadsheets open for anyone to edit and contribute - this is what is meant by crowdsourced.

ziont 8y ago
these are all pay sites http://www.clickonfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua http://www.clickonfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua https://www.talkinfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua https://www.talkinfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua https://www.newsinslowfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua https://www.newsinslowfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua
- graylien 8y ago
  You can filter between paid and free. And of course, there are paid sites - if they were not paid, they probably wouldn't exist.
  - ziont 8y ago
    > There are no affiliate links at all. So this is false. > These are great recommendations Those were already on your website.
    - graylien 8y ago
      What qualifies as an affiliate link ? To me it is a link that you get from an affiliate scheme to make money from selling their product. We don’t have any of them. Okay good that the links are already in the site - you can’t expect me to remember every link from the top of my head
      - ziont 8y ago
        attaching tracking links with your id for paid website by all definitions affiliate marketing 101. maybe change the title to include the word "Directory" or "Link Portal".
        graylien 8y ago
        I can't say any clearer, we have no affiliate links. The '?ref=littlelingua' appended to every URL is the same as Product Hunt links having '?ref=producthunt'. We are not making money from it. It is not affiliate marketing. But even if it was, I don't know what would be wrong with that. It's a useful resource, and would benefit from a source of revenue to improve it further. What's going on here? Read this: http://www.cyrilchandelier.com/dont-be-a-free-user http://www.cyrilchandelier.com/dont-be-a-free-user
        drieddust 8y ago
        Haters gonna hate. I think you are doing a good job so ignore these comments and continue. If you monetize too, I don't think its immoral. Money is the driving force of Capitalism so taking money for a useful service is not a sleazy activity.
        graylien 8y ago
        Definitely, thanks for voicing your thoughts here, other audiences we have shared this with have also been very supportive so we will definitely continue :)
        ziont 8y ago
        I think we have very different values. This is an example of a dark pattern. You create a clickbait title, for what is more than just a collection of websites with affiliate links, slap on a buzzword. I've never attacked you personally, I just asked you to be more transparent. I can't be the only one thinking I landed on a affiliate landing page. The main problem with recommending paysites you share profit with is it contradicts the entire purpose of crowdsourcing, which is building consensus based on the wisdom of the crowd, not the sole proprietor of the website seeking to benefit commercially. Note that I've never mentioned it was wrong to make money, but simply telling you I was misled, like among others, to a clickbait affiliate landing page. If this was crowdsourced I would've gone about differently, but if you feel attacked then I think that just speaks for itself.
      - hellofunk 8y ago
        The “ref” part of your links to paid services certainly satisfies the expectations of an affiliate link for just about everyone. If you are not getting something in return for linking to them, why did those links need to carry your identity?
        graylien 8y ago
        Why not show our identity? It might let people know about the site and help to grow it. webdesignernews.com and producthunt.com do this, and when I see incoming ref links, I always feel thankful towards them. What is the negative effect?
        radicalman 8y ago
        graylien aka drieddust

ziont 8y ago

these are all pay sites http://www.clickonfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua http://www.clickonfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua https://www.talkinfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua https://www.talkinfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua https://www.newsinslowfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua https://www.newsinslowfrench.com/?ref=littlelingua

graylien 8y ago
You can filter between paid and free. And of course, there are paid sites - if they were not paid, they probably wouldn't exist.
- ziont 8y ago
  > There are no affiliate links at all. So this is false. > These are great recommendations Those were already on your website.
  - graylien 8y ago
    What qualifies as an affiliate link ? To me it is a link that you get from an affiliate scheme to make money from selling their product. We don’t have any of them. Okay good that the links are already in the site - you can’t expect me to remember every link from the top of my head
    - ziont 8y ago
      attaching tracking links with your id for paid website by all definitions affiliate marketing 101. maybe change the title to include the word "Directory" or "Link Portal".
      - graylien 8y ago
        I can't say any clearer, we have no affiliate links. The '?ref=littlelingua' appended to every URL is the same as Product Hunt links having '?ref=producthunt'. We are not making money from it. It is not affiliate marketing. But even if it was, I don't know what would be wrong with that. It's a useful resource, and would benefit from a source of revenue to improve it further. What's going on here? Read this: http://www.cyrilchandelier.com/dont-be-a-free-user http://www.cyrilchandelier.com/dont-be-a-free-user
        drieddust 8y ago
        Haters gonna hate. I think you are doing a good job so ignore these comments and continue. If you monetize too, I don't think its immoral. Money is the driving force of Capitalism so taking money for a useful service is not a sleazy activity.
        graylien 8y ago
        Definitely, thanks for voicing your thoughts here, other audiences we have shared this with have also been very supportive so we will definitely continue :)
        ziont 8y ago
        I think we have very different values. This is an example of a dark pattern. You create a clickbait title, for what is more than just a collection of websites with affiliate links, slap on a buzzword. I've never attacked you personally, I just asked you to be more transparent. I can't be the only one thinking I landed on a affiliate landing page. The main problem with recommending paysites you share profit with is it contradicts the entire purpose of crowdsourcing, which is building consensus based on the wisdom of the crowd, not the sole proprietor of the website seeking to benefit commercially. Note that I've never mentioned it was wrong to make money, but simply telling you I was misled, like among others, to a clickbait affiliate landing page. If this was crowdsourced I would've gone about differently, but if you feel attacked then I think that just speaks for itself.
    - hellofunk 8y ago
      The “ref” part of your links to paid services certainly satisfies the expectations of an affiliate link for just about everyone. If you are not getting something in return for linking to them, why did those links need to carry your identity?
      - graylien 8y ago
        Why not show our identity? It might let people know about the site and help to grow it. webdesignernews.com and producthunt.com do this, and when I see incoming ref links, I always feel thankful towards them. What is the negative effect?
        radicalman 8y ago
        graylien aka drieddust