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Well, it's because of the government that once lied to the population on this subject. And, here we think that the vaccine is not safe, but the benefits are w

by Kuinox 8y ago

Well, it's because of the government that once lied to the population on this subject. And, here we think that the vaccine is not safe, but the benefits are worth the small risk. But there is also a bunch of idiots thinking it's better to not get vaccinated and don't vaccinate their childrens.

frereubu 8y ago
"Well, it's because of the government that once lied to the population on this subject." Can you elaborate on this? It's a strong claim and I'd be interested to know exactly what you mean.
- _red 8y ago
  Generally vaccines are fairly safe, however the government has created numerous incentives for their to be a lack of accountability, thus its to be expected that safety will fall over time. Specifically, they made it illegal to sue vaccine companies (making it so you must go to special vaccine court with predefined minimal damage awards). Have you ever wondered why you see "get your vaccine shots" at every grocery you go in to? Its precisely because its almost risk free for big pharma. Those that have permanent or fatal reactions have little recourse. Imagine trying to create a startup company whose business model was you were injecting strangers with some substance you created and your pitch was "we can just inject this into everyone at the local Walmart"...think that idea would get past the lawyers? Easy to do if you get congress to pass laws saying you will be held harmless.
- Mtinie 8y ago
  Here is the original paper where the statistics about vaccination sentiment come from: “The State of Vaccine Confidence 2016: Global Insights Through a 67-Country Survey” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235239641630398X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235239641...
- Kuinox 8y ago
  In 2009 Franch Governement allowed to bypass mandatory checks for the H1N1 flu vaccine and it made a lot of controversy. A lot of people remember the controversy today, and are suspicious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_controversies#Swine_flu_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_controversies#Swine_fl...
  - frereubu 8y ago
    The link you've posted doesn't include anything about the government allowing the vaccine to bypass mandatory checks. It just says there was a controversy about its potential safety. You need to link to something that backs up your main claim.

by Kuinox 8y ago

frereubu 8y ago

"Well, it's because of the government that once lied to the population on this subject." Can you elaborate on this? It's a strong claim and I'd be interested to know exactly what you mean.

_red 8y ago
Generally vaccines are fairly safe, however the government has created numerous incentives for their to be a lack of accountability, thus its to be expected that safety will fall over time. Specifically, they made it illegal to sue vaccine companies (making it so you must go to special vaccine court with predefined minimal damage awards). Have you ever wondered why you see "get your vaccine shots" at every grocery you go in to? Its precisely because its almost risk free for big pharma. Those that have permanent or fatal reactions have little recourse. Imagine trying to create a startup company whose business model was you were injecting strangers with some substance you created and your pitch was "we can just inject this into everyone at the local Walmart"...think that idea would get past the lawyers? Easy to do if you get congress to pass laws saying you will be held harmless.
Mtinie 8y ago
Here is the original paper where the statistics about vaccination sentiment come from: “The State of Vaccine Confidence 2016: Global Insights Through a 67-Country Survey” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235239641630398X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235239641...
Kuinox 8y ago
In 2009 Franch Governement allowed to bypass mandatory checks for the H1N1 flu vaccine and it made a lot of controversy. A lot of people remember the controversy today, and are suspicious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_controversies#Swine_flu_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_controversies#Swine_fl...
- frereubu 8y ago
  The link you've posted doesn't include anything about the government allowing the vaccine to bypass mandatory checks. It just says there was a controversy about its potential safety. You need to link to something that backs up your main claim.