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> MacOS is, by far the best generic developer OS. How so?

jmartrican 8y ago
BTW, please note that on Windows I can use various types of Linux variants right from the Windows App store. So the excuse of having a Nix shell on Mac OS is no longer a point for Mac OS. In fact, because we use Ubuntu in prod, and I run Ubuntu on Windows, that point might now be for Windows for many users.
- wilsonnb3 8y ago
  I still prefer using a real nix instead of the windows subsystem for Linux. Mostly because the file system integration with WSL is still bad and Windows still doesn’t come with a decent terminal emulator.
diminoten 8y ago
Linux, the kernel, is one of mankind's greatest achievements, I do believe this. The Linux desktop experience, however, is a living nightmare. Your computer itself becomes your second hobby, in addition to whatever you do on your computer. For a professional who's at work to produce novel software, that creates an additional time-sink they don't have the luxury of indulging. This isn't even really a debate for developers, and pretending like it is just baits the idiotic "Great OS Wars" debates that have zero rational actors. "What's the best OS (for x)" has been, for probably 25 years, a flaimbait level question. Besides, I use "all" 3 OSes (MacOS, Linux, Windows) for various things, why does this have to be a, "YOU CAN ONLY PICK ONE!" conversation? I could happily develop on Linux or Windows, I am (along with most in the industry, based on my conversations with people over the years) just happiest on MacOS.
- jmartrican 8y ago
  "just happiest on MacOS" is far from what you wrote earlier, "MacOS is, by far the best generic developer OS". This points to a problem I notice, hyperbole and exaggeration when discussing software development tools and technology.
  - diminoten 8y ago
    Because it is the best generic developer OS (it's *nix + good desktop environment, no Linux distro can even come close to the latter), I am also just happiest with it.

BTW, please note that on Windows I can use various types of Linux variants right from the Windows App store. So the excuse of having a Nix shell on Mac OS is no longer a point for Mac OS. In fact, because we use Ubuntu in prod, and I run Ubuntu on Windows, that point might now be for Windows for many users.

wilsonnb3 8y ago
I still prefer using a real nix instead of the windows subsystem for Linux. Mostly because the file system integration with WSL is still bad and Windows still doesn’t come with a decent terminal emulator.

diminoten 8y ago

Linux, the kernel, is one of mankind's greatest achievements, I do believe this. The Linux desktop experience, however, is a living nightmare. Your computer itself becomes your second hobby, in addition to whatever you do on your computer. For a professional who's at work to produce novel software, that creates an additional time-sink they don't have the luxury of indulging. This isn't even really a debate for developers, and pretending like it is just baits the idiotic "Great OS Wars" debates that have zero rational actors. "What's the best OS (for x)" has been, for probably 25 years, a flaimbait level question. Besides, I use "all" 3 OSes (MacOS, Linux, Windows) for various things, why does this have to be a, "YOU CAN ONLY PICK ONE!" conversation? I could happily develop on Linux or Windows, I am (along with most in the industry, based on my conversations with people over the years) just happiest on MacOS.

jmartrican 8y ago
"just happiest on MacOS" is far from what you wrote earlier, "MacOS is, by far the best generic developer OS". This points to a problem I notice, hyperbole and exaggeration when discussing software development tools and technology.
- diminoten 8y ago
  Because it is the best generic developer OS (it's *nix + good desktop environment, no Linux distro can even come close to the latter), I am also just happiest with it.