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> Nearly all the people we fund at Y Combinator use Apple laptops. It was the same in the audience at startup school. All the computer people use Macs or Linux

by 21 8y ago

> Nearly all the people we fund at Y Combinator use Apple laptops. It was the same in the audience at startup school. All the computer people use Macs or Linux now. Windows is for grandmas. > They still think they can write software in house. Maybe they can, by the standards of the desktop world. But that world ended a few years ago. And now, I bet a vast majority of people funded by YC use VS Code. Maybe even Azure.

xenospn 8y ago
They use VSCode, but they use it on Linux or OSX.
- Daegalus 8y ago
  I've switched back to Windows 10 with WSL running Ubuntu 18.04 in it. Works well and gives me pretty great integrations.
  - dilap 8y ago
    I was playing around with this recently. I found myself really missing (1) homebrew (2) a decent terminal (I tried a bunch...) and (3) good trackpad drivers. Not huge things, but enough to make switching feel unappealing. (There are a few things similar to homebrew, but none seemed to have gained enough attraction to cover basically anything you could want, the way homebrew does.)
  - leetrout 8y ago
    I keep trying and I keep going back to Mac or VMWare workstation and running the full Linux kernel for "proper" docker. WSL is great and I'm learning to like cmder but I really miss iterm.
  - jaxn 8y ago
    I also switched to Win 10 from Mac (and Linux before that). My Surface Book has a faulty battery and I am using an MBP when I'm not at the office. I not sure I will stick with Win 10 on my next computer, but I am sure I'm not going back to OSX. WSL isn't perfect, but it feel more open and more linux-like to me than OSX. Maybe a Pixel Book,maybe straight Linux.
  - alexeldeib 8y ago
    I gave the HyperV enhanced sessions a shot. It's pretty nice. Full VM with copy paste, smooth mouse navigation, properly sized windows, high res.
- Hydraulix989 8y ago
  The point being that Microsoft is no longer the desktop operating system company of yesteryear.
codeisawesome 8y ago
Okay this comment might finally push me to stop subscribing to IntelliJ and try out VSCode for all sorts of code. Sounds comfortable. Does that thing do any Windows 10 like non-configurable telemetry?
- earenndil 8y ago
  > Does that thing do any Windows 10 like non-configurable telemetry? Yes, it does. If you want to avoid it, you can use vscodium https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium
jaxn 8y ago
I actually miss the time when it was this cut and dry. The MBP was hands down the best laptop on the market and it wasn't even close. OSX was a great mix of Linux and usability. Everything (mostly) just worked. I don't recall it being like that before or since.
- sjg007 8y ago
  MacBooks are great laptops that last 5+ years. With a windows laptop I never got more than 2 years out of them. Maybe that was because I used Dell mostly but it was a stark difference. The Dell was cheaper though by at least 50% so maybe that would explain it. This is also a testament to how the web won and now mobile/smart devices are eating the web. Before it was about where the eyeballs where. The web democratized access to these eyeballs.

by 21 8y ago

xenospn 8y ago

They use VSCode, but they use it on Linux or OSX.

Daegalus 8y ago
I've switched back to Windows 10 with WSL running Ubuntu 18.04 in it. Works well and gives me pretty great integrations.
- dilap 8y ago
  I was playing around with this recently. I found myself really missing (1) homebrew (2) a decent terminal (I tried a bunch...) and (3) good trackpad drivers. Not huge things, but enough to make switching feel unappealing. (There are a few things similar to homebrew, but none seemed to have gained enough attraction to cover basically anything you could want, the way homebrew does.)
- leetrout 8y ago
  I keep trying and I keep going back to Mac or VMWare workstation and running the full Linux kernel for "proper" docker. WSL is great and I'm learning to like cmder but I really miss iterm.
- jaxn 8y ago
  I also switched to Win 10 from Mac (and Linux before that). My Surface Book has a faulty battery and I am using an MBP when I'm not at the office. I not sure I will stick with Win 10 on my next computer, but I am sure I'm not going back to OSX. WSL isn't perfect, but it feel more open and more linux-like to me than OSX. Maybe a Pixel Book,maybe straight Linux.
- alexeldeib 8y ago
  I gave the HyperV enhanced sessions a shot. It's pretty nice. Full VM with copy paste, smooth mouse navigation, properly sized windows, high res.
Hydraulix989 8y ago
The point being that Microsoft is no longer the desktop operating system company of yesteryear.

codeisawesome 8y ago

Okay this comment might finally push me to stop subscribing to IntelliJ and try out VSCode for all sorts of code. Sounds comfortable. Does that thing do any Windows 10 like non-configurable telemetry?

earenndil 8y ago
> Does that thing do any Windows 10 like non-configurable telemetry? Yes, it does. If you want to avoid it, you can use vscodium https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium

jaxn 8y ago

I actually miss the time when it was this cut and dry. The MBP was hands down the best laptop on the market and it wasn't even close. OSX was a great mix of Linux and usability. Everything (mostly) just worked. I don't recall it being like that before or since.

sjg007 8y ago
MacBooks are great laptops that last 5+ years. With a windows laptop I never got more than 2 years out of them. Maybe that was because I used Dell mostly but it was a stark difference. The Dell was cheaper though by at least 50% so maybe that would explain it. This is also a testament to how the web won and now mobile/smart devices are eating the web. Before it was about where the eyeballs where. The web democratized access to these eyeballs.