Yes as you've stated it is easy for China to be efficient and that was my point, that they have efficiencies in ways we may disagree with (human rights violatio

Yes as you've stated it is easy for China to be efficient and that was my point, that they have efficiencies in ways we may disagree with (human rights violations, yeah the Olympic village) but you can't deny in the secular sense their economic growth rate and the feats of industrialization going on in the country. Comparing them to the Soviets is a straw man; Soviets didn't adopt the capitalist means that China did. I think you're mixing one party rule with communist/socialist. China's government is one-party but it's no longer communist in anything other than name. I never said that Chinatowns are a net positive; I simply stated that you're generalizing on a group of people unfairly. My dad immigrated age 20, lived in Chicago Chinatown for some ten years, and he's just fine. The people he became friends with were primarily other chinese immigrants helping him out. Yes he had western friends; but it's very difficult to gain acceptance. I mean, as a college student I've had two immigrant roommates in the past two years. Both have found it difficult to make friends outside of other immigrants. Even when I actively befriend them, my friends often find it difficult to communicate with them. If they go out with me, they're usually very quiet and uncomfortable because they don't know how to act or what to say. You can't really fault them for that. If you did move to China you might not restrict yourself to English enclaves, but if you tried to party with a bunch of Chinese they might not get what you're trying to say. Also I apologize, because moving from China to America is very different from the other way around. In China they'll pay white people to stand outside their shops to get more business. It's not like that here in America...an immigrant with an Indian or Chinese accent isn't really sexy, you know what I mean? "As to asian american bias this argument is weak since out of all emigrants (except europeans) Asians face the lowest amount of overall discrimination." Bias is bias -- this is a weak statement comparing levels of discrimination. It's really hard to quantify bias because bias is exhibited in different ways to different cultures as you yourself have demonstrated in the above comment. The kinds of bias that Chinese face are simply different, and what I'm trying to say regarding that is that the kind of bias makes it hard for asian immigrants to make friends with many westerners. Sure Americans trust the chinese to pay money for a taxi ride, and they trust Chinese competence in business perhaps, but the fact that they won't vote for an Asian gives you an idea of what their attitude toward Asians in terms of friendship, loyalty, etc looks like. Also, I guess you're from the east coast but you've never been to a k-town? Brown town? Malays and Japanese you see less of because their population densities in the states are lower, but I think your generalizations may be influenced by some bias of your own.