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Developer misinterprets Linux CoC, suggests replacing F-word with 'hug'

11 points by MilnerRoute 8y ago

LifeLiverTransp 8y ago
Any social movement turns into a church with a priest caste in the end. Which does horrible things with good intentions. We took a place, where socially awkward beeings could contribute to society while beeing themselves - and turned it into a social minefield - for what gains? Those who are offended by this, dont want to contribute anyway- they just want the power, and those who contribute (and by increddible sexistic concepts are so brittle some bad words will scare them off), use swear words that would make a sailor blush. If somebody attempts to push bad, not profiled, code into the kernel, and you cant yell fuck - while literally getting fucked - where is the freedom, that was promised in free open source? First they came for the bad words, and i did not care, for i only used old english to write code..
- joshuamorton 8y ago
  You tell them no. And it's your code, that's the end if the discussion. But it's worth reading the enitre thread. This contributor misunderstood some things, and ended up widthdrawing the patchset.
earenndil 8y ago
Request to modify the link to http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1811.3/07150.html http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1811.3/07150.html, the original patch.
vvillena 8y ago
All good-natured CoCs boil down to "don't be a dick". Trying to push a patch that changes all uses of a swear word into another word that turns the comments into nonsense is destructive behavior. It's being a dick. The person pushing the patch doesn't really want to clean up those comments, or to make them more helpful. The only purpose there is to try to pick up a fight. And, like that one comment in the article says, I'm sure the maintainers would prefer for such people to "stay the fuck away from the code" until they stop being dicks.
im3w1l 8y ago
The article says he is with Intel, which is the company that contributes the most to the Linux kernel. Makes me wonder whether he did this on his own or on behalf of his employer. If Intel is behind him on this, it will be fascinating to see the consequences. Could drive a wedge between the hackers and the suits? Anyone knows what role if any BigCos played in getting the CoC adopted in the first place?

11 points by MilnerRoute 8y ago

Any social movement turns into a church with a priest caste in the end. Which does horrible things with good intentions. We took a place, where socially awkward beeings could contribute to society while beeing themselves - and turned it into a social minefield - for what gains? Those who are offended by this, dont want to contribute anyway- they just want the power, and those who contribute (and by increddible sexistic concepts are so brittle some bad words will scare them off), use swear words that would make a sailor blush. If somebody attempts to push bad, not profiled, code into the kernel, and you cant yell fuck - while literally getting fucked - where is the freedom, that was promised in free open source? First they came for the bad words, and i did not care, for i only used old english to write code..

joshuamorton 8y ago
You tell them no. And it's your code, that's the end if the discussion. But it's worth reading the enitre thread. This contributor misunderstood some things, and ended up widthdrawing the patchset.

earenndil 8y ago

Request to modify the link to http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1811.3/07150.html http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1811.3/07150.html, the original patch.

vvillena 8y ago

All good-natured CoCs boil down to "don't be a dick". Trying to push a patch that changes all uses of a swear word into another word that turns the comments into nonsense is destructive behavior. It's being a dick. The person pushing the patch doesn't really want to clean up those comments, or to make them more helpful. The only purpose there is to try to pick up a fight. And, like that one comment in the article says, I'm sure the maintainers would prefer for such people to "stay the fuck away from the code" until they stop being dicks.

im3w1l 8y ago

The article says he is with Intel, which is the company that contributes the most to the Linux kernel. Makes me wonder whether he did this on his own or on behalf of his employer. If Intel is behind him on this, it will be fascinating to see the consequences. Could drive a wedge between the hackers and the suits? Anyone knows what role if any BigCos played in getting the CoC adopted in the first place?