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I cannot believe that you actually think this was warranted. How does having a burqa indicate that you are a possible terrorist. Points of view like this one is

I cannot believe that you actually think this was warranted. How does having a burqa indicate that you are a possible terrorist. Points of view like this one is what lets custom agents and TSA high school dropouts drive this security theatre every single day. I travel all the time, and our security system does not protect anything but our peace of mind.

ceejayoz 16y ago
> How does having a burqa indicate that you are a possible terrorist. By itself? It'd be a stretch. When found with a bullet, Osama Bin Laden merchandise, a journal detailing how you can revoke your US citizenship, and trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan...
- rickharrison 16y ago
  A bullet does not signal any form of terrorism. What can you possibly do with one bullet without any form of firing it. Also, he hardly detailed how to revoke your citizenship; it was just one sentence. I guess I can understand how these agents would not understand the intellectual curiosity of a trip to this part of the world.
  - confuzatron 16y ago
    Coming home from Pakistan with a bullet in your pocket does point to the possibility that while in Pakistan you were dealing with weaponry. The guy doesn't give enough context to understand how the journal entry actually looked. From your last sentence, I can see you are no stranger to making snap judgements without all the details. ;)
    - sprout 16y ago
      Wow, you travelled to a warzone and you dealt with weaponry. Clearly you're interested in expanding the warzone.
      - confuzatron 16y ago
        Well, it's possible that you were undergoing weapons training and stupidly forgot you'd left a bullet in your pocket before packing up. And it's also possible that a child gave it to you as a gift. This guy wasn't arrested or jailed - he was treated with not entirely unreasonable suspicion.
  - jemfinch 16y ago
    Hit a bullet hard enough with a hammer or other hard surface and it will (at least sometimes) discharge.
    - jasonkester 16y ago
      No. Hit a cartridge hard enough and it will go off. A bullet is just a component of that cartridge, and it's completely harmless without a casing full of powder surrounding it.
      - jemfinch 16y ago
        Sorry, you're right. To a layman, though, a "bullet" usually means the whole shebang.
  - lsc 16y ago
    Cartridges[1] are prohibited on planes for good reason, I think. It is possible to set them off accidentally, and once you have a cartridge, building a one-time use zipgun is relatively simple, so if you want to keep firearms out of an area, you really need to keep cartridges out of that area. Of course, if the bullet was really just the bullet without the propellant (that was not clear to me) then yeah, I agree with you. [1] I think It's the explosive powder that matters here. A bullet with no propellant is just a lump of lead, which I think would be okay.
    - sorbus 16y ago
      But he had already gotten off the airplane, and it's a lot easier to cause damage with a single bullet on an airplane than it is to cause damage with a single bullet while leaving an airport - so either he's so stupid that he'll carry the bullet onto every airplane, waiting for the chance, or he just forgot that he was carrying it, as he said.
  - YooLi 16y ago
    One person has the bullet, another the firing mechanism, etc. Seriously, why does someone need to have a bullet in their pocket to travel on an airplane? They don't, so when an agent sees one, it's suspicious. It doesn't belong and raises a flag, just like some of the other articles in his possession. Enough flags and the agent needs to investigate.
    - zarify 16y ago
      If he were carrying it on his person perhaps, but it was mentioned that it was in a pocket of pants in packed luggage. Considering the proliferation of bullets in the US, smuggling them in one at a time in your stowed luggage seems a little inefficient to me.
akamaka 16y ago
Since people have been complaining about unfair downvoting lately, I'll give an explanation of why I downvoted your comment: The article itself says that the customs agent "suggested that I had used the burqa in order to move undetected throughout the tribal regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan". Seeing as he is not a Muslim and wouldn't have one for religious reasons, that does seem like it might be a fair question.
- mariorz 16y ago
  that does not explain why the terrorist would then try to introduce the burqa to the US, so the whole theory is rather pointless. seeing where he travelled to, it would be quite logical to assume the burqa is just a case of a tourist bringing home a souvenir.
  - akamaka 16y ago
    I'm not going to pretend that I am qualified to judge this, I just wanted to point out that the article did offer an explanation.

ceejayoz 16y ago

> How does having a burqa indicate that you are a possible terrorist. By itself? It'd be a stretch. When found with a bullet, Osama Bin Laden merchandise, a journal detailing how you can revoke your US citizenship, and trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan...

rickharrison 16y ago
A bullet does not signal any form of terrorism. What can you possibly do with one bullet without any form of firing it. Also, he hardly detailed how to revoke your citizenship; it was just one sentence. I guess I can understand how these agents would not understand the intellectual curiosity of a trip to this part of the world.
- confuzatron 16y ago
  Coming home from Pakistan with a bullet in your pocket does point to the possibility that while in Pakistan you were dealing with weaponry. The guy doesn't give enough context to understand how the journal entry actually looked. From your last sentence, I can see you are no stranger to making snap judgements without all the details. ;)
  - sprout 16y ago
    Wow, you travelled to a warzone and you dealt with weaponry. Clearly you're interested in expanding the warzone.
    - confuzatron 16y ago
      Well, it's possible that you were undergoing weapons training and stupidly forgot you'd left a bullet in your pocket before packing up. And it's also possible that a child gave it to you as a gift. This guy wasn't arrested or jailed - he was treated with not entirely unreasonable suspicion.
- jemfinch 16y ago
  Hit a bullet hard enough with a hammer or other hard surface and it will (at least sometimes) discharge.
  - jasonkester 16y ago
    No. Hit a cartridge hard enough and it will go off. A bullet is just a component of that cartridge, and it's completely harmless without a casing full of powder surrounding it.
    - jemfinch 16y ago
      Sorry, you're right. To a layman, though, a "bullet" usually means the whole shebang.
- lsc 16y ago
  Cartridges[1] are prohibited on planes for good reason, I think. It is possible to set them off accidentally, and once you have a cartridge, building a one-time use zipgun is relatively simple, so if you want to keep firearms out of an area, you really need to keep cartridges out of that area. Of course, if the bullet was really just the bullet without the propellant (that was not clear to me) then yeah, I agree with you. [1] I think It's the explosive powder that matters here. A bullet with no propellant is just a lump of lead, which I think would be okay.
  - sorbus 16y ago
    But he had already gotten off the airplane, and it's a lot easier to cause damage with a single bullet on an airplane than it is to cause damage with a single bullet while leaving an airport - so either he's so stupid that he'll carry the bullet onto every airplane, waiting for the chance, or he just forgot that he was carrying it, as he said.
- YooLi 16y ago
  One person has the bullet, another the firing mechanism, etc. Seriously, why does someone need to have a bullet in their pocket to travel on an airplane? They don't, so when an agent sees one, it's suspicious. It doesn't belong and raises a flag, just like some of the other articles in his possession. Enough flags and the agent needs to investigate.
  - zarify 16y ago
    If he were carrying it on his person perhaps, but it was mentioned that it was in a pocket of pants in packed luggage. Considering the proliferation of bullets in the US, smuggling them in one at a time in your stowed luggage seems a little inefficient to me.

akamaka 16y ago

Since people have been complaining about unfair downvoting lately, I'll give an explanation of why I downvoted your comment: The article itself says that the customs agent "suggested that I had used the burqa in order to move undetected throughout the tribal regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan". Seeing as he is not a Muslim and wouldn't have one for religious reasons, that does seem like it might be a fair question.

mariorz 16y ago
that does not explain why the terrorist would then try to introduce the burqa to the US, so the whole theory is rather pointless. seeing where he travelled to, it would be quite logical to assume the burqa is just a case of a tourist bringing home a souvenir.
- akamaka 16y ago
  I'm not going to pretend that I am qualified to judge this, I just wanted to point out that the article did offer an explanation.