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Also avoid DNA services. If one family member does it it can compromise the entire family.

astura 8y ago
"Compromise" in what sense? I don't find any sort of value in DNA services, but I don't feel "compromised" one bit that my brother uses them. Anyway, the idea of "family" when we get into DNA is not useful, a skilled person can track you down because a total stranger who you share great great great grandparents with uploaded their DNA into an open source DNA database, which is what happened with the Last Area Rapist.
- diminoten 8y ago
  If you murder someone, they might be able to find you via 32andme. Some people would say, "Don't murder people, then!" but folks sometimes prefer, "How dare they catch you, what a violation of your privacy!"
  - astura 8y ago
    So don't use 23 and me to make sure if your relatives can get away with murder?
    - pessimizer 8y ago
      Everyone who doesn't want their genetics searched has a murder to hide. The punchline: the series of rapes and murders that was used to institutionalize mass DNA collection turned out to have been done by a cop who didn't have DNA taken.
  - Cpoll 8y ago
    Even if you don't commit the crime, you become more vulnerable to being false-flagged for it by a combination of lab contamination and a DNA database search. Of course, if you go down this line of reasoning, you need to weigh the probability of this versus the probability of dying to an undiagnosed/late-diagnosed genetic condition.
- jobigoud 8y ago
  Your brother and you share a lot of your DNA. You could be flagged by an insurance company for genes that your brother has.
  - astura 8y ago
    No you can't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrimination_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrim... And if GINA was repealed, (and it wouldn't be, it was passed the House 420-3 a and passed the Senate 95-0), the insurance companies aren't going to beat around the bush and try to hack 23andMe, they'd just demand DNA samples directly as a requirement of being insured.
    - pessimizer 8y ago
      Is "hack 23andMe" code for "partner with 23andMe"? > they'd just demand DNA samples directly as a requirement of being insured. Unless GINA was repealed, but that remained illegal.

"Compromise" in what sense? I don't find any sort of value in DNA services, but I don't feel "compromised" one bit that my brother uses them. Anyway, the idea of "family" when we get into DNA is not useful, a skilled person can track you down because a total stranger who you share great great great grandparents with uploaded their DNA into an open source DNA database, which is what happened with the Last Area Rapist.

diminoten 8y ago
If you murder someone, they might be able to find you via 32andme. Some people would say, "Don't murder people, then!" but folks sometimes prefer, "How dare they catch you, what a violation of your privacy!"
- astura 8y ago
  So don't use 23 and me to make sure if your relatives can get away with murder?
  - pessimizer 8y ago
    Everyone who doesn't want their genetics searched has a murder to hide. The punchline: the series of rapes and murders that was used to institutionalize mass DNA collection turned out to have been done by a cop who didn't have DNA taken.
- Cpoll 8y ago
  Even if you don't commit the crime, you become more vulnerable to being false-flagged for it by a combination of lab contamination and a DNA database search. Of course, if you go down this line of reasoning, you need to weigh the probability of this versus the probability of dying to an undiagnosed/late-diagnosed genetic condition.
jobigoud 8y ago
Your brother and you share a lot of your DNA. You could be flagged by an insurance company for genes that your brother has.
- astura 8y ago
  No you can't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrimination_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrim... And if GINA was repealed, (and it wouldn't be, it was passed the House 420-3 a and passed the Senate 95-0), the insurance companies aren't going to beat around the bush and try to hack 23andMe, they'd just demand DNA samples directly as a requirement of being insured.
  - pessimizer 8y ago
    Is "hack 23andMe" code for "partner with 23andMe"? > they'd just demand DNA samples directly as a requirement of being insured. Unless GINA was repealed, but that remained illegal.