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Upload filters ala Google’s ContentId. The impact will be similar to Youtube in the short term. Since Reddit is GIFs not audio it will be topical things like FI

by deno 8y ago

Upload filters ala Google’s ContentId. The impact will be similar to Youtube in the short term. Since Reddit is GIFs not audio it will be topical things like FIFA replays etc. The ultimate goal is to lay ground work for filtering/shadow banning political content. But that will happen slowly, not overnight.

nerdponx 8y ago
Which of course is where the truth comes out. This helps big tech players at the little guys' expense. Big companies can build their own content filters. Small companies can't, and are forced to buy content filtering software or services from the big companies.
- ffwd 8y ago
  As far as I can tell it doesn't even help the big players, Google has said it is economically impossible to be compliant with article 11 https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/11/12/2045240/youtube-ceo-says-eus-proposed-copyright-regulation-financially-impossible https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/11/12/2045240/youtube-ceo... There's a big difference between a DMCA system where the content host has the responsibility to take down copyrighted content in a reasonable time frame, while having safe harbor protection in cases where content gets through, versus a "non-safe harbor" law where you literally cannot allow any copyrighted content _on upload_, or you can be held liable. It would be impossible to decide who owns what, even for Google, and so they would need to have some other system that is not user generated content (who knows what). User-generated content is the life blood of the web, it's why everyone can communicate and we have this new world, we simply need it I think. I really disagree with others who try to frame this as if Google and Reddit are simply another company trying to defend their turf. This is a real blunder for the EU and completely misinformed IMO
matt4077 8y ago
> The ultimate goal is to lay ground work for filtering/shadow banning political content. And one wonders why the serious players only roll the their eyes when “the internet community” is mentioned.
- deno 8y ago
  It’s how it goes every single time. UK tried it with child pornography filters but it got a little too obvious.

by deno 8y ago

nerdponx 8y ago

Which of course is where the truth comes out. This helps big tech players at the little guys' expense. Big companies can build their own content filters. Small companies can't, and are forced to buy content filtering software or services from the big companies.

ffwd 8y ago
As far as I can tell it doesn't even help the big players, Google has said it is economically impossible to be compliant with article 11 https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/11/12/2045240/youtube-ceo-says-eus-proposed-copyright-regulation-financially-impossible https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/11/12/2045240/youtube-ceo... There's a big difference between a DMCA system where the content host has the responsibility to take down copyrighted content in a reasonable time frame, while having safe harbor protection in cases where content gets through, versus a "non-safe harbor" law where you literally cannot allow any copyrighted content _on upload_, or you can be held liable. It would be impossible to decide who owns what, even for Google, and so they would need to have some other system that is not user generated content (who knows what). User-generated content is the life blood of the web, it's why everyone can communicate and we have this new world, we simply need it I think. I really disagree with others who try to frame this as if Google and Reddit are simply another company trying to defend their turf. This is a real blunder for the EU and completely misinformed IMO

matt4077 8y ago

> The ultimate goal is to lay ground work for filtering/shadow banning political content. And one wonders why the serious players only roll the their eyes when “the internet community” is mentioned.

deno 8y ago
It’s how it goes every single time. UK tried it with child pornography filters but it got a little too obvious.