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My experience has been that the long tail, in aggregate, form a large segment of the immigrant graduate population. I already stated this in my previous comment

My experience has been that the long tail, in aggregate, form a large segment of the immigrant graduate population. I already stated this in my previous comment as statement A.

pm90 8y ago
Your experience does not the reality maketh. Statiscally, immigration fraud through this route is uncommon.
- mavelikara 8y ago
  > Statiscally, immigration fraud through this route is uncommon. Citation needed.
  - pm90 8y ago
    Sure. Provide anecdotes for justifying your worldview but demand citations from others. That seems totally fair and not hypocritical at all. In any case, here you go: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Unauthorized%20Immigrant%20Population%20Estimates%20in%20the%20US%20January%202014_1.pdf https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Unautho...
    - mavelikara 8y ago
      I narrated my experience, cited two links, and you go "that doesn't make reality, statistics say...". So I ask for said stats. What is amusing about that? You then come back with an article titled "Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2014", when the discussion here is about students gaming legal immigration. What relevance does that have to the topic, again?
      - pm90 8y ago
        You provided 2 news articles about 2 specific incidents. None of the news stories that you link to provide any indication whatsoever that students game the legal immigration system whatsoever. The document I cited gives specific numbers of authorized v/s unauthorized immigrants giving an idea of the scales we're talking about. Its pretty clear that you've made up your mind about what the state of the world is (from various anecdata) and don't really care what the statistics really say. I will leave this as my last comment about this issue.

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My experience has been that the long tail, in aggregate, form a large segment of the immigrant graduate population. I already stated this in my previous comment

by mavelikara 8y ago

My experience has been that the long tail, in aggregate, form a large segment of the immigrant graduate population. I already stated this in my previous comment as statement A.

pm90 8y ago
Your experience does not the reality maketh. Statiscally, immigration fraud through this route is uncommon.
- mavelikara 8y ago
  > Statiscally, immigration fraud through this route is uncommon. Citation needed.
  - pm90 8y ago
    Sure. Provide anecdotes for justifying your worldview but demand citations from others. That seems totally fair and not hypocritical at all. In any case, here you go: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Unauthorized%20Immigrant%20Population%20Estimates%20in%20the%20US%20January%202014_1.pdf https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Unautho...
    - mavelikara 8y ago
      I narrated my experience, cited two links, and you go "that doesn't make reality, statistics say...". So I ask for said stats. What is amusing about that? You then come back with an article titled "Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2014", when the discussion here is about students gaming legal immigration. What relevance does that have to the topic, again?
      - pm90 8y ago
        You provided 2 news articles about 2 specific incidents. None of the news stories that you link to provide any indication whatsoever that students game the legal immigration system whatsoever. The document I cited gives specific numbers of authorized v/s unauthorized immigrants giving an idea of the scales we're talking about. Its pretty clear that you've made up your mind about what the state of the world is (from various anecdata) and don't really care what the statistics really say. I will leave this as my last comment about this issue.