I'm not even sure if its possible to tell ownership these days. Here in Silicon Valley I saw some contracts I wasn't supposed to see - all with labels saying "d

I'm not even sure if its possible to tell ownership these days. Here in Silicon Valley I saw some contracts I wasn't supposed to see - all with labels saying "disclosure not required" and "not legally required to provide copies". Basically, ownership can be held by a company, and that can be a legal casino, so it can place bets which transfer ownership to anyone in the future (eg. if support costs over 10% then 50% is owned by China). These documents were used to arrange Russian ownership of several NSA "front" companies - all without any public disclosures since they were potential futures, not current reality. That is the world we live in. (And I don't claim to really understand those contracts. I just know somebody who knows somebody who was working on the contracts for foreign entities to secretly hold ownership of a bunch of Silicon Valley companies. I took a look, saw the list of famous companies involved, and happen to know a couple of NSA front companies which were also on the list.) And in a court of law I will claim that I made all this up.