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You must not use "Must", just let DragonFly die, use true google or stick with Baidu, in the meantime feel grateful that github.com is still accessible.

by ausjke 8y ago

tinza123 8y ago
So your solution to the Chinese people that wants alternative is to just pray? There is no easy way to "use true google", so not really an option. The situation is mostly the government's fault, the people just want options, any options would be better than nothing.
- nomel 8y ago
  > The situation is mostly the government's fault, the people just want options, any options would be better than nothing. Serious question, but shouldn't grievances like this be taken up with the elected/appointed officials?
  - tinza123 8y ago
    The country mainly works from the top down instead of the other way around. People don't really vote, and the vote doesn't work the same way it is in the US. There are also some things no officials would like to touch at all, for fear of pissing off the party and lose a career / future. Information censorship is one of those things. In fact most of the censorship is not enforced by written regulation, but are conducted by the website / company / media themselves for the fear of being shutdown overnight. Therefore companies differ from one another a little, and people hope in the worst form Google is still better than what's already out there.
    - ausjke 8y ago
      the point is the word "Must", your government sucks, it's not Google's problem, maybe your people favored that government, all is good, but that gives you no right to mandate companies overseas to "Must" give you an option, God only helps those who helps themselves. next time, try ask for it humbly at least.
- dbsmith83 8y ago
  Too bad. Unfortunately for the Chinese people, we don't want our major tech companies actively developing authoritarian solutions which could likely be used on us one day.
- deleted 8y ago
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bitxbitxbitcoin 8y ago
It's bad/sad that there are over a billion people living under such censorship that github.com still being accessible is a truly worthy accomplishment. I think it's a real concern that Github might start censoring because China is able to exert pressure on Microsoft, just look at bing.
judge2020 8y ago
Github.com has and likely will continue to be blocked in China whenever they need to censor certain projects or discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub#China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub#China

You must not use "Must", just let DragonFly die, use true google or stick with Baidu, in the meantime feel grateful that github.com is still accessible.

by ausjke 8y ago

You must not use "Must", just let DragonFly die, use true google or stick with Baidu, in the meantime feel grateful that github.com is still accessible.

tinza123 8y ago

So your solution to the Chinese people that wants alternative is to just pray? There is no easy way to "use true google", so not really an option. The situation is mostly the government's fault, the people just want options, any options would be better than nothing.

nomel 8y ago
> The situation is mostly the government's fault, the people just want options, any options would be better than nothing. Serious question, but shouldn't grievances like this be taken up with the elected/appointed officials?
- tinza123 8y ago
  The country mainly works from the top down instead of the other way around. People don't really vote, and the vote doesn't work the same way it is in the US. There are also some things no officials would like to touch at all, for fear of pissing off the party and lose a career / future. Information censorship is one of those things. In fact most of the censorship is not enforced by written regulation, but are conducted by the website / company / media themselves for the fear of being shutdown overnight. Therefore companies differ from one another a little, and people hope in the worst form Google is still better than what's already out there.
  - ausjke 8y ago
    the point is the word "Must", your government sucks, it's not Google's problem, maybe your people favored that government, all is good, but that gives you no right to mandate companies overseas to "Must" give you an option, God only helps those who helps themselves. next time, try ask for it humbly at least.
dbsmith83 8y ago
Too bad. Unfortunately for the Chinese people, we don't want our major tech companies actively developing authoritarian solutions which could likely be used on us one day.
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bitxbitxbitcoin 8y ago

It's bad/sad that there are over a billion people living under such censorship that github.com still being accessible is a truly worthy accomplishment. I think it's a real concern that Github might start censoring because China is able to exert pressure on Microsoft, just look at bing.

judge2020 8y ago

Github.com has and likely will continue to be blocked in China whenever they need to censor certain projects or discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub#China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub#China