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The singular point of blockchain is to establish a paper trail. The singular point of Tor is not to have a paper trail. Those are literally opposites. Blockcha

The singular point of blockchain is to establish a paper trail. The singular point of Tor is not to have a paper trail. Those are literally opposites. Blockchain + Tor would be the sort of complete nonsense the article is talking about. Blockchain has nothing to do with security. It's not a security technology. It's a permanence technology. It ensures that something is never modified in the absence of a trusted authority which it does with security technology and distributed proof of work.

tuxxy 8y ago
You've completely missed the point. There are people who are using Onion routing with nodes who are economically incentivized to behave in a non-malicious fashion. If caught acting malicious, then your node can be penalized. It's not like you're actively putting all traffic on the blockchain. You're arguing a strawman here. I'm not going to speak for these projects directly because I know very little about them, but I can speak as to how you would incentivize non-malicious behavior.
- kllrnohj 8y ago
  > You're arguing a strawman here. You didn't really provide anything to actually talk about. You took two literally opposite techs and slapped them together and then acted like it was obvious what that meant. Blockchain has no application to Onion routing nodes, either. That, again, would be the sort of thing you don't want a permanent record to track. Tor is specifically designed for the routing to not be stable and not be known. It is fundamentallly the polar opposite of blockchain. Blockchain is a public list of immutable data, identical for everyone. TOR nodes form a private list of ephemeral data, fleeting and ever changing. Unique to everyone. > If caught acting malicious, then your node can be penalized. Blockchain literally has nothing to do with this. It has no such capabilities of any kind. Hell, it was literally built so that you can't have penalties as that's governance. > I can speak as to how you would incentivize non-malicious behavior. Blockchain doesn't do this, at all. If anything malicious actors love blockchain because there's largely no capability to recover from a successful attack.
baby 8y ago
Zcash.

tuxxy 8y ago

You've completely missed the point. There are people who are using Onion routing with nodes who are economically incentivized to behave in a non-malicious fashion. If caught acting malicious, then your node can be penalized. It's not like you're actively putting all traffic on the blockchain. You're arguing a strawman here. I'm not going to speak for these projects directly because I know very little about them, but I can speak as to how you would incentivize non-malicious behavior.

kllrnohj 8y ago
> You're arguing a strawman here. You didn't really provide anything to actually talk about. You took two literally opposite techs and slapped them together and then acted like it was obvious what that meant. Blockchain has no application to Onion routing nodes, either. That, again, would be the sort of thing you don't want a permanent record to track. Tor is specifically designed for the routing to not be stable and not be known. It is fundamentallly the polar opposite of blockchain. Blockchain is a public list of immutable data, identical for everyone. TOR nodes form a private list of ephemeral data, fleeting and ever changing. Unique to everyone. > If caught acting malicious, then your node can be penalized. Blockchain literally has nothing to do with this. It has no such capabilities of any kind. Hell, it was literally built so that you can't have penalties as that's governance. > I can speak as to how you would incentivize non-malicious behavior. Blockchain doesn't do this, at all. If anything malicious actors love blockchain because there's largely no capability to recover from a successful attack.

baby 8y ago

Zcash.