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My impression from reading stories about Google culture is that there is a very strong emphasis on launching products.
by bootlooped 8y ago
My impression from reading stories about Google culture is that there is a very strong emphasis on launching products.
- vikinghckr 8y agoThat's not necessarily a bad thing for consumers if the replacement product is just as good or better than the previous one.
- Mindless2112 8y agoPutting aside quality comparisons, consider that Skype is still "Skype". Even non-technical people know what Skype is, whereas no one knows for sure what Google's Skype competitor is going to be.
- snaky 8y ago> Skype is still "Skype" In name only. Even non-technical people know what huge pile of crap "Skype" is nowadays.
- varjag 8y agoNo, it's the same product with enormous care for user transition. Right now I sit in a Skype chatroom continuously running since 2007.
- ElCapitanMarkla 8y agoI have the opposite experience. I hated the new UI they came out with recently and apparently so did 90% of my contact list. I used to always have it running now I barely open it.
- varjag 8y agoThe UI has changed more times than I care to count. Skype itself changed ownership 3 times, the underlying communication tech went from P2P to supernodes to Azure integration. At some point I ran its Linux client that hasn't been updated for 5 years. The damn thing never stopped working and the chat is still there.
- imron 8y agoZoom is the new skype
- lozaning 8y agoI've never once "zoom'ed" a friend. Do you find yourself doing that frequently?
- imron 8y agoNo, but I don't use Skype for that either. And though I don't use it with friends (FaceTime mostly fills that role) I work remotely and do use Zoom several times a week for video meetings and screen sharing.
- purple_ducks 8y agoZoom is the new Webex
- walterbell 8y agoWire is made by people who made the old Skype. Open-source and E2E encryption.
- metildaa 8y agoDoesn't it require some weird browser extension rather than asking for camera/mic or screensharing permissions through the APIs offered in all modern browsers? Seemed like a kludge when my SO had to use it, like they took the idea of Jitsi and wrecked it.
- Izkata 8y agoI use their standalone program on Ubuntu at work; we're switching from hangouts/meet to zoom for a lot (though ad-hoc stuff will likely remain hangouts due to it only being one-click to start one up). It's pretty straightforward, I've almost never had issues.
- imron 8y agoI just use their desktop app. The call quality of video and screen sharing is significantly better than Skype and hangouts.
- jjkmk 8y agoFunny you bring up skype, Microsoft is actually phasing it out (skype for business) and replacing it with MS Teams. https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-teams-now-ready-replace-skype-business-microsoft-says https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-teams-now-ready-rep...
- the_mitsuhiko 8y agoSkype for Business is not Skype but a rebranded Lync.
- happymellon 8y agoNot surprised. Lync is terrible. Why does it keep archiving all the conversations? Sometimes I want to continue a conversation, but it really doesn't want you to.
- happymellon 8y ago> Skype is still "Skype" Except when it is Lync Lync is an abomination that only exists to dilute the brand
- yrro 8y agoNo you're thinking of Office Communicator!
- avip 8y agoReplacing X with an "as good" Y is necessarily bad for consumers. It makes no sense to replace something that works. And hangouts works!
- scoot_718 8y agoThats silly. Consumers have to learn about the thing, learn how to use it. And those seeking to transition now don't have the google replacement. I'm looking elsewhere.
- beatgammit 8y ago"If". Most of their product releases are one step forward and one step back. For example, the new Gmail is a little nicer looking, but it's a huge resource hog compared to the previous one without any striking features (though there autocomplete thing is nice). Google Meet just seems to have a few fewer features than Hangouts, and I'm not really sure what it adds. I honestly haven't seen a new product from them that is noticeably better than whatever it replaced for quite a while. Most things seem to be change for the sake of change.
- jfoutz 8y agoInbox was a tragedy. It’s very effective at separating stuff I care about from stupid junk. Unfortunately it greatly reduced the time I spent looking at email. Fantastic for me, awful for ad impressions. The new gmail is ok I guess. It’s not substantially different from Mac inbox for me to care. Either way I’ll spent some time scanning subject lines and senders. I might be an outlier though.
- flavor8 8y agoWhat new consumer software products have come out in the last year from google?
- stabbles 8y agoGoogle Duo would probably replace Hangouts
- basilgohar 8y agoGoogle Due cannot be a replacement for Hangouts without a serious overhaul: * Duo is linked via phones, not Google accounts * Duo is strictly peer-to-peer, not for groups * Duo is video/audio only, no chat/text So, it could be a Duo-like replacement for Hangouts, maybe. But not a complete replacement. A merger of Allo + Duo (does anyone here know what Allo is?) could check some of these boxes. But one of the primary appeals of Duo is E2E encryption, and that is not in Google's interests in the long run.
- bootlooped 8y agoThere could be value in Google having an E2E encrypted messaging service if for no other reason than taking users from their competitors and keeping them in the Google ecosystem.
- flavor8 8y agoThat was launched in 2016. My question to the OP was about their product-launching abilities. They seem rather slow on the consumer software front, i.e. they don't seem to be launching new products (or even updating existing) at the same rate that they're retiring them.
- sanat 8y agoLike the article says Google Hangouts Chat will replace Hangouts. Chat even has hangouts classic backwards compatibility.
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