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> "Bu-bu-bu-bullshit! " Is this really necessary, or the best way to make your point? It really takes away from an otherwise decent post.

M0T0K0 8y ago
I sympathize with RangerScience on this one; the schism between successful individuals who refuse to acknowledge society's role in aiding their success (subsidies, infrastructure, taxes, etc.), versus the less successful who continually get steamrolled over for the former's further advantage. Its obviously more complex than that, but I've met a few who don't help much in the former's depiction.
- sachdevap 8y ago
  I think the parent is pointing out that the wording on their parent comment is not helping change anyone's mind.
- AlexB138 8y ago
  Sorry, I was unclear. I didn't post that to disagree with their point (though like you I think it's overly simplistic), I was disagreeing with the childish tone. That's not a way to have a productive conversation, or to be a good member of our community.
RangerScience 8y ago
I mean... Reasonable. "Bullshit" has a particular meaning to me (ala Dykstra's comment on abstraction) that I felt was appropriate; adding syllables is then a particular modifier on that concept (same same but more so, basically) given phonetics and cultural usage. "Fuckin' bullshit" carries more anger, "that's a load of bull" doesn't convey enough dismissal. "Bu-bu-bu-" conveys not only a more-than-usual amount of bullshit, but enough and of the right flavor that it's starting to be humorous in a pyrrhic kind of way. I'm not actually figuring out a non-loaded term to use instead; the next best that I'm finding are the phrases "head so far up your own ass" and "check your privilege", both of which have their own issues. AFAIK, when people are willfully ignorant of the plight of others, you call bullshit on their crap. Like replying to ad hominem attacks with fallacy ref memes. Anything else is engaging with the trolls. I'll take suggestions, tho. Otherwise, thanks!

M0T0K0 8y ago

I sympathize with RangerScience on this one; the schism between successful individuals who refuse to acknowledge society's role in aiding their success (subsidies, infrastructure, taxes, etc.), versus the less successful who continually get steamrolled over for the former's further advantage. Its obviously more complex than that, but I've met a few who don't help much in the former's depiction.

sachdevap 8y ago
I think the parent is pointing out that the wording on their parent comment is not helping change anyone's mind.
AlexB138 8y ago
Sorry, I was unclear. I didn't post that to disagree with their point (though like you I think it's overly simplistic), I was disagreeing with the childish tone. That's not a way to have a productive conversation, or to be a good member of our community.

RangerScience 8y ago

I mean... Reasonable. "Bullshit" has a particular meaning to me (ala Dykstra's comment on abstraction) that I felt was appropriate; adding syllables is then a particular modifier on that concept (same same but more so, basically) given phonetics and cultural usage. "Fuckin' bullshit" carries more anger, "that's a load of bull" doesn't convey enough dismissal. "Bu-bu-bu-" conveys not only a more-than-usual amount of bullshit, but enough and of the right flavor that it's starting to be humorous in a pyrrhic kind of way. I'm not actually figuring out a non-loaded term to use instead; the next best that I'm finding are the phrases "head so far up your own ass" and "check your privilege", both of which have their own issues. AFAIK, when people are willfully ignorant of the plight of others, you call bullshit on their crap. Like replying to ad hominem attacks with fallacy ref memes. Anything else is engaging with the trolls. I'll take suggestions, tho. Otherwise, thanks!