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I just wanted to point out that racism like that is on its last leg. I used to live in a rural, very conservative, upper class area. While they do watch fox new

I just wanted to point out that racism like that is on its last leg. I used to live in a rural, very conservative, upper class area. While they do watch fox news, they are not racist. Its close minded to call fox news racist or cnn socialist.

jhayward 8y ago
"I'm not saying they're racist, I'm just saying that racists like them a lot" [1] (paraphrased from Gillum) [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/11/29/tucker-carlson-neo-nazi-favorite/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/11/...
- pathseeker 8y ago
  Peanut butter isn't racist, I'm just saying that racists like it a lot.
- dlp211 8y ago
  The Simpson's cartoon did it first, and they didn't paraphrase[1]. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=simpsons+fox+news+helicopter&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiU7Puzkv3eAhW-JTQIHY64DAIQsAR6BAgAEAE&biw=1920&bih=1089 https://www.google.com/search?q=simpsons+fox+news+helicopter...
- AnthonyMouse 8y ago
  > "I'm not saying they're racist, I'm just saying that racists like them a lot" Civil Liberties organization defends due process. "I'm not saying they're rapists, I'm just saying rapists like them a lot." Fertilizer company sells ordinary fertilizer that happens to be a major component of large bombs. "I'm not saying they're terrorists, I'm just saying terrorists like them a lot." Tech company protects privacy of customers. "I'm not saying they're child pornographers, I'm just saying child pornographers like them a lot." This form of argument is obviously more incendiary than illuminating.
coliveira 8y ago
Conservatism tries to maintain the existing structures of society and, in a country like USA, these structures are racially determined - it is just part of the history of the country. Therefore, conservative policies will tend to maintain racial discrimination, even when this is not the stated goal of the policy maker.
- pathseeker 8y ago
  >Conservatism tries to maintain the existing structures of society Only in a loose, meaningless sense of the word that doesn't really tie to most conservatives in the US. Many conservatives in the US want to change structures of society, particularly WRT how much the government is involved. >these structures are racially determined - it is just part of the history of the country Not really. A poor white immigrant is just as disadvantaged by current laws as a poor black immigrant. Money is the #1 indicator of how hard you are going to have it in the US. >Therefore, conservative policies will tend to maintain racial discrimination No, they will tend to discriminate against low-income people. A larger portion of black people are low-income so people who are into identity-politics will intentionally confuse this and claim the policy is designed to hurt black people.
  - AnthonyMouse 8y ago
    > No, they will tend to discriminate against low-income people. Even this is disputed. The conservative argument is that existing regulations make it more difficult to operate a business, so more of the people who would otherwise have their own small business are stuck working a dead end job for someone else, or are unemployed because the small business they would have worked at was destroyed. Better for the same person to have a $60,000/year job than a $30,000/year job plus $15,000 in government assistance.

jhayward 8y ago

"I'm not saying they're racist, I'm just saying that racists like them a lot" [1] (paraphrased from Gillum) [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/11/29/tucker-carlson-neo-nazi-favorite/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/11/...

pathseeker 8y ago
Peanut butter isn't racist, I'm just saying that racists like it a lot.
dlp211 8y ago
The Simpson's cartoon did it first, and they didn't paraphrase[1]. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=simpsons+fox+news+helicopter&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiU7Puzkv3eAhW-JTQIHY64DAIQsAR6BAgAEAE&biw=1920&bih=1089 https://www.google.com/search?q=simpsons+fox+news+helicopter...
AnthonyMouse 8y ago
> "I'm not saying they're racist, I'm just saying that racists like them a lot" Civil Liberties organization defends due process. "I'm not saying they're rapists, I'm just saying rapists like them a lot." Fertilizer company sells ordinary fertilizer that happens to be a major component of large bombs. "I'm not saying they're terrorists, I'm just saying terrorists like them a lot." Tech company protects privacy of customers. "I'm not saying they're child pornographers, I'm just saying child pornographers like them a lot." This form of argument is obviously more incendiary than illuminating.

coliveira 8y ago

Conservatism tries to maintain the existing structures of society and, in a country like USA, these structures are racially determined - it is just part of the history of the country. Therefore, conservative policies will tend to maintain racial discrimination, even when this is not the stated goal of the policy maker.

pathseeker 8y ago
>Conservatism tries to maintain the existing structures of society Only in a loose, meaningless sense of the word that doesn't really tie to most conservatives in the US. Many conservatives in the US want to change structures of society, particularly WRT how much the government is involved. >these structures are racially determined - it is just part of the history of the country Not really. A poor white immigrant is just as disadvantaged by current laws as a poor black immigrant. Money is the #1 indicator of how hard you are going to have it in the US. >Therefore, conservative policies will tend to maintain racial discrimination No, they will tend to discriminate against low-income people. A larger portion of black people are low-income so people who are into identity-politics will intentionally confuse this and claim the policy is designed to hurt black people.
- AnthonyMouse 8y ago
  > No, they will tend to discriminate against low-income people. Even this is disputed. The conservative argument is that existing regulations make it more difficult to operate a business, so more of the people who would otherwise have their own small business are stuck working a dead end job for someone else, or are unemployed because the small business they would have worked at was destroyed. Better for the same person to have a $60,000/year job than a $30,000/year job plus $15,000 in government assistance.