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In the US, the Bolt starts at $37,495 and the Model 3 currently starts at $47,200. (You may be slightly behind the times, the $47,200 version just became availa

In the US, the Bolt starts at $37,495 and the Model 3 currently starts at $47,200. (You may be slightly behind the times, the $47,200 version just became available in October.) The base Bolt is missing various things I'd consider to be fairly essential that are included in the $46,000 Model 3, such as forward collision warning/avoidance and fast charging, so the Bolt's base price is a bit deceptive.

JackC 8y ago
That might be sticker price, but I'm seeing the Bolt in Massachusetts for more like $32,000 before subsidies with the upgrades you mention: https://drivegreen.greenenergyconsumers.org/form_cars.php https://drivegreen.greenenergyconsumers.org/form_cars.php So after subsidies prices end up at something like $22,000 vs. $37,000 -- it's a real gap.
- mikeash 8y ago
  Interesting, looks similar here in the DC area, if cars.com is to be believed. Goes to show how much worse (or, at least, less appealing) the Bolt is, if it’s being so heavily discounted and is still barely selling.
  - rohit2412 8y ago
    Wow the conversation went from "these cars are highly desirable, and GM doesn't want to sell them" to "these cars are shit, but a Tesla". I don't understand Elon musk fanclub
    - mikeash 8y ago
      I never said they were highly desirable or that GM doesn’t want to sell them. It’s normal for different people to have different opinions.
    - spectrum1234 8y ago
      Tesla doesn't make ugly as fuck cars. Thats a huge reason I love my Model 3. Best looking car that exists in my opinion. Car companies: stop making disgusting hunks of metal.
rohit2412 8y ago
GM gave out around 5k$ dealer incentives as bolt subsidy. Please continue ignoring that GM had to subsidize their vehicles and still didn't have buyers, while chastating them. I don't think even Tesla could sell cars if they didn't have Elon musk's culty fanclub
- mikeash 8y ago
  How is that last sentence connected to the rest of your comment?

JackC 8y ago

That might be sticker price, but I'm seeing the Bolt in Massachusetts for more like $32,000 before subsidies with the upgrades you mention: https://drivegreen.greenenergyconsumers.org/form_cars.php https://drivegreen.greenenergyconsumers.org/form_cars.php So after subsidies prices end up at something like $22,000 vs. $37,000 -- it's a real gap.

mikeash 8y ago
Interesting, looks similar here in the DC area, if cars.com is to be believed. Goes to show how much worse (or, at least, less appealing) the Bolt is, if it’s being so heavily discounted and is still barely selling.
- rohit2412 8y ago
  Wow the conversation went from "these cars are highly desirable, and GM doesn't want to sell them" to "these cars are shit, but a Tesla". I don't understand Elon musk fanclub
  - mikeash 8y ago
    I never said they were highly desirable or that GM doesn’t want to sell them. It’s normal for different people to have different opinions.
  - spectrum1234 8y ago
    Tesla doesn't make ugly as fuck cars. Thats a huge reason I love my Model 3. Best looking car that exists in my opinion. Car companies: stop making disgusting hunks of metal.

rohit2412 8y ago

GM gave out around 5k$ dealer incentives as bolt subsidy. Please continue ignoring that GM had to subsidize their vehicles and still didn't have buyers, while chastating them. I don't think even Tesla could sell cars if they didn't have Elon musk's culty fanclub

mikeash 8y ago
How is that last sentence connected to the rest of your comment?