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> .there should be some mandate on parents to “treat” their child with diet You're considering forcing parents to change, presumably with the threat of taking

by dmm 8y ago

> .there should be some mandate on parents to “treat” their child with diet You're considering forcing parents to change, presumably with the threat of taking their children away. But consider this, in the past type-2 diabetes was extremely rare in children. Why is it now common? Are parents just worse? Or are terrible diets more appealing? Maybe the sources of those terrible diets would be a better place to start imposing government violence.

bad_user 8y ago
I don't know how life was in the Western countries while growing up in Romania. Being born in 1982, in the eighties as kids we received sweets only on holidays. I remember chinese chocolate (which was really good btw), a locally made soda and oranges and bananas. Even now when it smells like oranges, I feel like it smells like Christmas, because that's when we were getting oranges. Then in the nineties, after the revolution, we got an explosion in the junk food consumed. People importing Coca Cola from Turkey made a fortune. The result is that at this point we are in the top countries in Europe when it comes to heart disease and diabetes. It's easy to see what happened if you follow the trends: 1. sugar (sucrose, HCFS) consumption going up 2. snaking ... when we were little, we were only eating 3 meals per day at most 3. stress Also if you believe the hyperinsulinemia theory of obesity, well, there are indications that mothers that developed insulin resistance will pass that resistance to the child. Which is one explanation, besides genes, for why children born of overweight parents also have a tendency to get fat. And yes, we eat too much. Unfortunately thin people have always blamed fat people of gluttony, not thinking that the hunger and satiety signals might be broken in some people, for various reasons, including insulin resistance, or maybe because the junk we eat doesn't contain the nutrients the body needs.
will_brown 8y ago
Well luckily the US is not a vacuum and you can see the pattern of the explosion of type 2 and other chronic conditions in other countries, even in Okinawa which used to have the best life expectancy but now is riddled with chronic diseases and type 2. It’s not the mystery you suggest.
- dmm 8y ago
  I'm not saying it's a mystery I'm saying it's the fault of the food industry and they should be the ones forced to change.
  - will_brown 8y ago
    I see. I agree the industry should change, but like alcohol/tobacco they won’t without government mandates and regulation (ie age of consumption laws; warnings; child advertising)...each one of those were lengthy hard fought battles.

by dmm 8y ago

bad_user 8y ago

I don't know how life was in the Western countries while growing up in Romania. Being born in 1982, in the eighties as kids we received sweets only on holidays. I remember chinese chocolate (which was really good btw), a locally made soda and oranges and bananas. Even now when it smells like oranges, I feel like it smells like Christmas, because that's when we were getting oranges. Then in the nineties, after the revolution, we got an explosion in the junk food consumed. People importing Coca Cola from Turkey made a fortune. The result is that at this point we are in the top countries in Europe when it comes to heart disease and diabetes. It's easy to see what happened if you follow the trends: 1. sugar (sucrose, HCFS) consumption going up 2. snaking ... when we were little, we were only eating 3 meals per day at most 3. stress Also if you believe the hyperinsulinemia theory of obesity, well, there are indications that mothers that developed insulin resistance will pass that resistance to the child. Which is one explanation, besides genes, for why children born of overweight parents also have a tendency to get fat. And yes, we eat too much. Unfortunately thin people have always blamed fat people of gluttony, not thinking that the hunger and satiety signals might be broken in some people, for various reasons, including insulin resistance, or maybe because the junk we eat doesn't contain the nutrients the body needs.

will_brown 8y ago

Well luckily the US is not a vacuum and you can see the pattern of the explosion of type 2 and other chronic conditions in other countries, even in Okinawa which used to have the best life expectancy but now is riddled with chronic diseases and type 2. It’s not the mystery you suggest.

dmm 8y ago
I'm not saying it's a mystery I'm saying it's the fault of the food industry and they should be the ones forced to change.
- will_brown 8y ago
  I see. I agree the industry should change, but like alcohol/tobacco they won’t without government mandates and regulation (ie age of consumption laws; warnings; child advertising)...each one of those were lengthy hard fought battles.