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What you fail to note is that Palestinians use this term in the context of demolishing Israeli apartheid policies and aggression towards the Palestinians for th

by rl522002 8y ago

What you fail to note is that Palestinians use this term in the context of demolishing Israeli apartheid policies and aggression towards the Palestinians for the past 70 years. It is Israel who uprooted them from their homes, it is Israel who occupied the WB and Gaza and it continues to be the aggressor. Even after multiple UN resolutions that call for the right of return for all Palestinians who were uprooted from their homeland in 1948, Israel turns a blind eye. Maybe because they feel they can get away with it and cry anti-semitism anytime someone criticizes Israeli policies. That's exactly what you're doing here, you are trying to steer the conversation away from the reality on the ground. The reality is that Gaza is an open-air prison, Israeli forces continue to shoot UNARMED civilians at the fence while they are protesting their UN right to return to their homeland. And instead of engaging in a discussion where we can lay out the facts, you cry anti-semitism because its the easy way out hoping the world will turn away. Just to note something there, there are many many Jews who criticize Israel and they stand up for the basic right of the Palestinian people. I would suggest taking a look at JVP, If Not Now and look at the works of Noam Chomsky and Ilan Pape. I highly suggest that if anyone is interested in this topic to visit the West Bank and see for yourself the brutality and occupation the Palestinians face on a daily basis. Don't fall for what the American media will feed you, you must see it for yourself as I have in the past summer. Its also important to note that Shaun King, BLM, and multiple Black activists/movements support the Palestinian movement towards their liberation. It's also important to note that recently Israel passed a law stating the even Palestinians who carry Israeli citizenship (which make up 20% of their population) are deemed as second class citizens. Here are some links: Ilan's Pape book: https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553 https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe... JVP: https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/ https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/ If Not Now: http://ifnotnowmovement.org/ http://ifnotnowmovement.org/

judah 8y ago
>> "What you fail to note is that Palestinians use this term in the context of demolishing Israeli ...policies" That's true, but both of the Palestinian factions, Hamas and Fatah, use this phrase to mean destruction of Israel itself, not just policies. If Palestine exists from the river to the sea, there is no Israel. The ADL noted this in their rebuke of Mr. Hill yesterday. If both governing Palestinian factions use that anti-Semitic phrase in a way meant for the violent destruction of the world's only Jewish state, it's naive to think it's a harmless phrase directed at policy alone. >> "Don't fall for what the American media will feed you..." OK, now you're getting into conspiracy theory land. Why should we not "fall for what the American media will feed" us? Is it because the American media is made up of Jews? When I was Nazareth, I spoke with 3 Arab teens. They told me precisely this: CNN is controlled by Jews, therefore we shouldn't listen to them. It's anti-Semitic, hate-filled nonsense if I've ever heard it. I'd expect such nonsense on extremist forums, but not on HN.

judah 8y ago

>> "What you fail to note is that Palestinians use this term in the context of demolishing Israeli ...policies" That's true, but both of the Palestinian factions, Hamas and Fatah, use this phrase to mean destruction of Israel itself, not just policies. If Palestine exists from the river to the sea, there is no Israel. The ADL noted this in their rebuke of Mr. Hill yesterday. If both governing Palestinian factions use that anti-Semitic phrase in a way meant for the violent destruction of the world's only Jewish state, it's naive to think it's a harmless phrase directed at policy alone. >> "Don't fall for what the American media will feed you..." OK, now you're getting into conspiracy theory land. Why should we not "fall for what the American media will feed" us? Is it because the American media is made up of Jews? When I was Nazareth, I spoke with 3 Arab teens. They told me precisely this: CNN is controlled by Jews, therefore we shouldn't listen to them. It's anti-Semitic, hate-filled nonsense if I've ever heard it. I'd expect such nonsense on extremist forums, but not on HN.