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Citations for the 5 to 7% would be nice. Here's a meta analysis that states otherwise. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/74/5/579/4737391 https://academic

Citations for the 5 to 7% would be nice. Here's a meta analysis that states otherwise. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/74/5/579/4737391 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/74/5/579/4737391

dsp1234 8y ago
Per that study, "This analysis of 5-y weight-loss maintenance indicates, on average, that obese individuals maintained weight losses of 3.0 kg, representing a reduced weight of 3.2% below initial body weight. These individuals were successfully maintaining a weightloss averaging 23.4% of their initial weight loss at 5y" Put another way, after 5 years, the average weight loss was ~3kg, with an average weight gain of 78.6% of the original lost weight. Also, in general, an obese person who is obese before, and after 5 years has a weight that is ~3kg is likely still obese. So this study basically just says that an average person isn't successful at keeping a large amount of weight, and gains most of it back. The specific statistics stated by the commenter above may not be correct, but the sentiment is definitely true. That said, the study does confirm that very low energy diets (~800 meal replacement) beat out hypoenergetic balanced diet (~1200-1500 normal food) in long term weight maintence. Which is what the article is suggesting being implemented. So it's still not a great long term solution, but it's the better of the two non-exercise based solutions which this study evaluated.
- Jill_the_Pill 8y ago
  One consideration is that obesity has a snowball effect. I think I remember reading once that the average annual weight gain at midlife is 3 pounds. So over a 5-year period, those who made the attempt may have actually been down 15 pounds, plus the 3kg, from where they might have been if they'd continued on their trajectory.
belltaco 8y ago
I am on mobile and I don't have a root source for the below paragraph, maybe someone can dig it up. > The statistics for dieters who lose weight rapidly, according to Wellsphere, a website sponsored by Stanford University, is worse. Only 5 percent of people who lose weight on a crash diet will keep the weight off. Crash diets include any unhealthy diet, from severe calorie-restriction diets to diets that consist of only a few kinds of foods. Another study showing 5% looks like it was an old study from 1959. Anyway, there are more modern studies proving the point. And that people gain even more weight back than they started with. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA-Researchers-7832 http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA... >Several studies indicate that dieting is actually a consistent predictor of future weight gain,” said Janet Tomiyama, a UCLA graduate student of psychology and co-author of the study. One study found that both men and women who participated in formal weight-loss programs gained significantly more weight over a two-year period than those who had not participated in a weight-loss program, she said. >Another study, which examined a variety of lifestyle factors and their relationship to changes in weight in more than 19,000 healthy older men over a four-year period, found that “one of the best predictors of weight gain over the four years was having lost weight on a diet at some point during the years before the study started,” Tomiyama said. In several studies, people in control groups who did not diet were not that much worse off — and in many cases were better off — than those who did diet, she said.

Citations for the 5 to 7% would be nice. Here's a meta analysis that states otherwise. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/74/5/579/4737391 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/74/5/579/4737391

dsp1234 8y ago

Per that study, "This analysis of 5-y weight-loss maintenance indicates, on average, that obese individuals maintained weight losses of 3.0 kg, representing a reduced weight of 3.2% below initial body weight. These individuals were successfully maintaining a weightloss averaging 23.4% of their initial weight loss at 5y" Put another way, after 5 years, the average weight loss was ~3kg, with an average weight gain of 78.6% of the original lost weight. Also, in general, an obese person who is obese before, and after 5 years has a weight that is ~3kg is likely still obese. So this study basically just says that an average person isn't successful at keeping a large amount of weight, and gains most of it back. The specific statistics stated by the commenter above may not be correct, but the sentiment is definitely true. That said, the study does confirm that very low energy diets (~800 meal replacement) beat out hypoenergetic balanced diet (~1200-1500 normal food) in long term weight maintence. Which is what the article is suggesting being implemented. So it's still not a great long term solution, but it's the better of the two non-exercise based solutions which this study evaluated.

Jill_the_Pill 8y ago
One consideration is that obesity has a snowball effect. I think I remember reading once that the average annual weight gain at midlife is 3 pounds. So over a 5-year period, those who made the attempt may have actually been down 15 pounds, plus the 3kg, from where they might have been if they'd continued on their trajectory.

belltaco 8y ago

I am on mobile and I don't have a root source for the below paragraph, maybe someone can dig it up. > The statistics for dieters who lose weight rapidly, according to Wellsphere, a website sponsored by Stanford University, is worse. Only 5 percent of people who lose weight on a crash diet will keep the weight off. Crash diets include any unhealthy diet, from severe calorie-restriction diets to diets that consist of only a few kinds of foods. Another study showing 5% looks like it was an old study from 1959. Anyway, there are more modern studies proving the point. And that people gain even more weight back than they started with. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA-Researchers-7832 http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA... >Several studies indicate that dieting is actually a consistent predictor of future weight gain,” said Janet Tomiyama, a UCLA graduate student of psychology and co-author of the study. One study found that both men and women who participated in formal weight-loss programs gained significantly more weight over a two-year period than those who had not participated in a weight-loss program, she said. >Another study, which examined a variety of lifestyle factors and their relationship to changes in weight in more than 19,000 healthy older men over a four-year period, found that “one of the best predictors of weight gain over the four years was having lost weight on a diet at some point during the years before the study started,” Tomiyama said. In several studies, people in control groups who did not diet were not that much worse off — and in many cases were better off — than those who did diet, she said.