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yes!!! people don't realize that volunteers review the addons and that sometimes they make mistakes. They start acting as if Mozilla sent an internal memo to ki

yes!!! people don't realize that volunteers review the addons and that sometimes they make mistakes. They start acting as if Mozilla sent an internal memo to kill something when it is usually not the case.

Aissen 8y ago
If you read correctly, it was removed 15 days ago, and we have no idea what's the status since then.
- soapdog 8y ago
  Did you try reaching out for the team in IRC or the mailing list?
  - Mindwipe 8y ago
    As a process, that is a flat out awful one.
    - soapdog 8y ago
      Thats not the process, that is just a way to reach out for a team as apparently they've been unable to communicate with them. If you think about it it is great that you can actually use some channel to talk to people involved in a product you use. That is not that common. There is a process, it is through the AMO developer hub page for their addon. What I've been saying here is about ways to contact the team if they want to talk to them directly. From the Addon admin page, from the "review history" page, they have a form to message their review team. Usually, if something happen and by any reason your addon is rejects, you can use that form to escalate and find out why it happened. There is also an email address for escalating this stuff which I am assuming they've emailed already.
- boomboomsubban 8y ago
  The project creator doesn't appear to have been active for twelve days, and it took fifteen days for a press outlet to notice and report on it. Many things could be causing a delay, it's a busy season and I doubt this is anyone's priority.
dingaling 8y ago
> that volunteers review the addons I don't think that makes it better. In fact, it's worse. Why is Mozilla Corporation, a company with gross revenue of $562 million, delegating an important security role to unpaid and apparently unaccountable volunteers?
- soapdog 8y ago
  Thats not how it works. To become an addon reviewer there is a process and it is not like all the reviewers are the same. Again please, don't treat volunteers who are donating their time and effort as unaccountable or as if they don't know security, they are accountable and there is also a staff team working on there. There are a ton of volunteers who are very good with security. Whatever happened between this addon author and the review this is kinda private to them. I really dislike when people assume that because you're a volunteer that you're unaccountable or less capable technically or security wise than an employee. That is simply not true. There are volunteers in all places at Mozilla and personally, I think this is great. Also treating Mozilla as a company is not really the ideal mindset. Mozilla is at best a NGO, a foundation, who owns a company for legal reasons, who is also a community, who builds a ton of stuff. It is quite a complex entity to be summarized as "a company should handle this different".
  - shkkmo 8y ago
    I don't understand what point you are trying to make. First you agree with the OP that the reviews being done by volunteers who can makes mistakes somehow makes Mozilla less culpable, then you jump in to say that these volunteers are just as accountable, technically capable and security wise as an employee would be. You only seem interested in letting Mozilla off the hook rather than acknowledging the systemic issues that gave rise to this situation. > Also treating Mozilla as a company is not really the ideal mindset. Mozilla is at best a NGO, a foundation, who owns a company for legal reasons, who is also a community, who builds a ton of stuff. Except the Mozilla Corporation is the entity that develops Firefox and is a company. That company may be wholey owned by a non-profit, but it is still a company.
- Sylos 8y ago

Aissen 8y ago

If you read correctly, it was removed 15 days ago, and we have no idea what's the status since then.

soapdog 8y ago
Did you try reaching out for the team in IRC or the mailing list?
- Mindwipe 8y ago
  As a process, that is a flat out awful one.
  - soapdog 8y ago
    Thats not the process, that is just a way to reach out for a team as apparently they've been unable to communicate with them. If you think about it it is great that you can actually use some channel to talk to people involved in a product you use. That is not that common. There is a process, it is through the AMO developer hub page for their addon. What I've been saying here is about ways to contact the team if they want to talk to them directly. From the Addon admin page, from the "review history" page, they have a form to message their review team. Usually, if something happen and by any reason your addon is rejects, you can use that form to escalate and find out why it happened. There is also an email address for escalating this stuff which I am assuming they've emailed already.
boomboomsubban 8y ago
The project creator doesn't appear to have been active for twelve days, and it took fifteen days for a press outlet to notice and report on it. Many things could be causing a delay, it's a busy season and I doubt this is anyone's priority.

dingaling 8y ago

> that volunteers review the addons I don't think that makes it better. In fact, it's worse. Why is Mozilla Corporation, a company with gross revenue of $562 million, delegating an important security role to unpaid and apparently unaccountable volunteers?

soapdog 8y ago
Thats not how it works. To become an addon reviewer there is a process and it is not like all the reviewers are the same. Again please, don't treat volunteers who are donating their time and effort as unaccountable or as if they don't know security, they are accountable and there is also a staff team working on there. There are a ton of volunteers who are very good with security. Whatever happened between this addon author and the review this is kinda private to them. I really dislike when people assume that because you're a volunteer that you're unaccountable or less capable technically or security wise than an employee. That is simply not true. There are volunteers in all places at Mozilla and personally, I think this is great. Also treating Mozilla as a company is not really the ideal mindset. Mozilla is at best a NGO, a foundation, who owns a company for legal reasons, who is also a community, who builds a ton of stuff. It is quite a complex entity to be summarized as "a company should handle this different".
- shkkmo 8y ago
  I don't understand what point you are trying to make. First you agree with the OP that the reviews being done by volunteers who can makes mistakes somehow makes Mozilla less culpable, then you jump in to say that these volunteers are just as accountable, technically capable and security wise as an employee would be. You only seem interested in letting Mozilla off the hook rather than acknowledging the systemic issues that gave rise to this situation. > Also treating Mozilla as a company is not really the ideal mindset. Mozilla is at best a NGO, a foundation, who owns a company for legal reasons, who is also a community, who builds a ton of stuff. Except the Mozilla Corporation is the entity that develops Firefox and is a company. That company may be wholey owned by a non-profit, but it is still a company.
Sylos 8y ago