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There is a monument to this injustice in Washington, D.C.; growing up in the 90s, I read children’s books which taught how unfair, racist, senseless, and counte

by _iyig 8y ago

There is a monument to this injustice in Washington, D.C.; growing up in the 90s, I read children’s books which taught how unfair, racist, senseless, and counter-productive Japanese internment turned out to be. Why do you think one crime justifies another?

monocasa 8y ago
The monument is actually a monument to those who remained patriotic despite the injustice rather than any sort of apology. It specifically excludes those who wouldn't call themselves patriotic after their country put their whole family in a camp and stole their land. And I have zero confidence that we wouldn't do the same thing today in a heartbeat. Also, going to throw out there that the Japanese internment covered all Japanese on the west coast. The Uighur estimates are single digits percentages of all Uighur population in China. It's not that I think one crime justifies another. It's that the current poitical appartus of the past 30 years or so justifies it's actions in the now to those with traditionally liberal sensibilities with trumped up outrage over low information situations that when all of the facts are in turns out to be something we would totally do or have recently done. Iraq wasn't putting babies in incubators. We didn't have to invade a country to kill bin Laden (we ended up doing that in a country that was protecting him, but had nukes so they were off limits). Iraq didn't have a nuclear program or any yellow cake. etc. etc.
- _iyig 8y ago
  That is an incomplete description of the memorial. In addition to the names of Japanese-Americans who died fighting for the U.S., it specifically memorializes the injustice of the internment camps. “The focal point of the memorial is a sculpture of two bronze cranes, tangled in barbed wire. Around the memorial is a curved wall, listing the name of each internment camp along with the number of people held there, as well as a list of all the Japanese Americans who died in combat in WWII.” https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/memorial-to-japaneseamerican-patriotism-in-world-war-ii https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/memorial-to-japaneseamer...

by _iyig 8y ago

monocasa 8y ago

The monument is actually a monument to those who remained patriotic despite the injustice rather than any sort of apology. It specifically excludes those who wouldn't call themselves patriotic after their country put their whole family in a camp and stole their land. And I have zero confidence that we wouldn't do the same thing today in a heartbeat. Also, going to throw out there that the Japanese internment covered all Japanese on the west coast. The Uighur estimates are single digits percentages of all Uighur population in China. It's not that I think one crime justifies another. It's that the current poitical appartus of the past 30 years or so justifies it's actions in the now to those with traditionally liberal sensibilities with trumped up outrage over low information situations that when all of the facts are in turns out to be something we would totally do or have recently done. Iraq wasn't putting babies in incubators. We didn't have to invade a country to kill bin Laden (we ended up doing that in a country that was protecting him, but had nukes so they were off limits). Iraq didn't have a nuclear program or any yellow cake. etc. etc.

_iyig 8y ago
That is an incomplete description of the memorial. In addition to the names of Japanese-Americans who died fighting for the U.S., it specifically memorializes the injustice of the internment camps. “The focal point of the memorial is a sculpture of two bronze cranes, tangled in barbed wire. Around the memorial is a curved wall, listing the name of each internment camp along with the number of people held there, as well as a list of all the Japanese Americans who died in combat in WWII.” https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/memorial-to-japaneseamerican-patriotism-in-world-war-ii https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/memorial-to-japaneseamer...