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That same campaign seems pretty active in this very HN post. Lots of apologists for the communist regime here, with some not so subtle approvals of racism and g

That same campaign seems pretty active in this very HN post. Lots of apologists for the communist regime here, with some not so subtle approvals of racism and genocide.

rqs 8y ago
> Lots of apologists for the communist regime here Pure ignorant at it's best. If you don't encounter any of them in the real life, you don't put comment on. Don't just sitting in your little chair and imagining how things are. It's very simple to get the truth out, just pickup some Chinese people on Twitter, and ask them about it. Or, maybe ask around on GitHub, you surely know or can found some Chinese developers there. Oh, guess what, I found one for you, take a look: https://github.com/cirosantilli/chat/issues/4 https://github.com/cirosantilli/chat/issues/4 In one comment: > The China government and the CCP is evil, we all know that. But with all respect, is "that religion" Falun Gong? If so, I strongly advise you to help your mother in law get rid of that cult, as much as you can. It's really a cult[1] even more evil than CCP.
- ancorevard 8y ago
  You do realize that this is not new behavior of the Chinese Communist Party? Up to 55 million Chinese individuals died during the Great Leap Forward. https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2011/06/17/la-chine-creuse-ses-trous-de-memoire_743211 https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2011/06/17/la-chine-creuse...
- ashelmire 8y ago
  I have met and worked with Uighurs. I personally did what was probably the largest collection on their language a couple years ago in my work at the LDC. The attempts to slander them are just that. I’ll leave the other issue aside as I don’t know anything about it.
  - rqs 8y ago
    One thing you don't realized is that, if you put Uighurs along side with Falun Gong, you're making Uighurs look bad. And we are talking about Falun Gong here. I don't have enough information about Uighurs. About Uighurs, two videos you might interested: This one trying to erase regional discrimination (in Chinese): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4XP5qFzTc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4XP5qFzTc This one explains "Why China is keeping a tight grip on Xinjiang": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUg-w0tdyBs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUg-w0tdyBs I don't hold any point with either one of the two.
- dang 8y ago
  Please stop posting flamewar comments.
PavlovsCat 8y ago
https://imgur.com/a/HPJgSoq https://imgur.com/a/HPJgSoq Speaking of tracking, is there a site that tracks and draws a graph of the position of a stories on the front page, their score and number of comments?
- nkurz 8y ago
  http://hnrankings.info http://hnrankings.info does at least some of what you ask.
- throwaway2048 8y ago
  I'm sure it has nothing to do with YCs new partnership in China.
  - dang 8y ago
    I can't speak for anyone else but YC's activities in China have zero to do with how we moderate HN.
    - PavlovsCat 8y ago
      FWIW I didn't mean to imply any moderator action, just user flagging. And I know there are many reasons for that, some people don't want political things period, and so on. But just going by sheer quality of this article, I think it's sad that people who don't want to discuss it impede on the ability of those who do want to discuss it. When it went to #1 instantly I thought "this won't last" and made some screenshots... got distracted, looked again and saw it had sunk like a brick. I made myself a little scraper, I hope it's okay to grab the front page HTML once a minute, or is that too often?
      - dang 8y ago
        Once a minute is just fine. I think the robots.txt says 2 per minute.
dang 8y ago
This comment breaks the site guideline against insinuating astroturfing and bad faith, and it adds to nationalistic flamewar. Please don't post like this again. HN has plenty of users with legitimate reason to be on either side of this debate. Both sides need to respect each other, and if they can't, they can't post here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html All: if you really believe you're seeing organized manipulation on Hacker News, that's obviously a bannable offence, and you should alert us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can investigate. But please don't insinuate it in comments just to take a swipe in an argument. That's offside, and also mind-numbingly tedious.

That same campaign seems pretty active in this very HN post. Lots of apologists for the communist regime here, with some not so subtle approvals of racism and genocide.

rqs 8y ago

> Lots of apologists for the communist regime here Pure ignorant at it's best. If you don't encounter any of them in the real life, you don't put comment on. Don't just sitting in your little chair and imagining how things are. It's very simple to get the truth out, just pickup some Chinese people on Twitter, and ask them about it. Or, maybe ask around on GitHub, you surely know or can found some Chinese developers there. Oh, guess what, I found one for you, take a look: https://github.com/cirosantilli/chat/issues/4 https://github.com/cirosantilli/chat/issues/4 In one comment: > The China government and the CCP is evil, we all know that. But with all respect, is "that religion" Falun Gong? If so, I strongly advise you to help your mother in law get rid of that cult, as much as you can. It's really a cult[1] even more evil than CCP.

ancorevard 8y ago
You do realize that this is not new behavior of the Chinese Communist Party? Up to 55 million Chinese individuals died during the Great Leap Forward. https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2011/06/17/la-chine-creuse-ses-trous-de-memoire_743211 https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2011/06/17/la-chine-creuse...
ashelmire 8y ago
I have met and worked with Uighurs. I personally did what was probably the largest collection on their language a couple years ago in my work at the LDC. The attempts to slander them are just that. I’ll leave the other issue aside as I don’t know anything about it.
- rqs 8y ago
  One thing you don't realized is that, if you put Uighurs along side with Falun Gong, you're making Uighurs look bad. And we are talking about Falun Gong here. I don't have enough information about Uighurs. About Uighurs, two videos you might interested: This one trying to erase regional discrimination (in Chinese): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4XP5qFzTc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4XP5qFzTc This one explains "Why China is keeping a tight grip on Xinjiang": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUg-w0tdyBs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUg-w0tdyBs I don't hold any point with either one of the two.
dang 8y ago
Please stop posting flamewar comments.

PavlovsCat 8y ago

https://imgur.com/a/HPJgSoq https://imgur.com/a/HPJgSoq Speaking of tracking, is there a site that tracks and draws a graph of the position of a stories on the front page, their score and number of comments?

nkurz 8y ago
http://hnrankings.info http://hnrankings.info does at least some of what you ask.
throwaway2048 8y ago
I'm sure it has nothing to do with YCs new partnership in China.
- dang 8y ago
  I can't speak for anyone else but YC's activities in China have zero to do with how we moderate HN.
  - PavlovsCat 8y ago
    FWIW I didn't mean to imply any moderator action, just user flagging. And I know there are many reasons for that, some people don't want political things period, and so on. But just going by sheer quality of this article, I think it's sad that people who don't want to discuss it impede on the ability of those who do want to discuss it. When it went to #1 instantly I thought "this won't last" and made some screenshots... got distracted, looked again and saw it had sunk like a brick. I made myself a little scraper, I hope it's okay to grab the front page HTML once a minute, or is that too often?
    - dang 8y ago
      Once a minute is just fine. I think the robots.txt says 2 per minute.

dang 8y ago

This comment breaks the site guideline against insinuating astroturfing and bad faith, and it adds to nationalistic flamewar. Please don't post like this again. HN has plenty of users with legitimate reason to be on either side of this debate. Both sides need to respect each other, and if they can't, they can't post here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html All: if you really believe you're seeing organized manipulation on Hacker News, that's obviously a bannable offence, and you should alert us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can investigate. But please don't insinuate it in comments just to take a swipe in an argument. That's offside, and also mind-numbingly tedious.