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Because there's demand for developers that supply cannot meet, the demand to take on a civic job in NYC is tremendous, yet we constrain supply of these workers

Because there's demand for developers that supply cannot meet, the demand to take on a civic job in NYC is tremendous, yet we constrain supply of these workers by paying very high wages. These organizations are crippling the cities ability to deliver services, if wages were 2/3s of what they were now, they could hire far more employees and potentially provide better services all around. Additionally, public sector unions are completely different than private sector ones. Concessions should be made to workers at the expense of capital not workers who make less than them.

gamblor956 8y ago
You just answered your own question about why cops and firefighters in NYC get paid so well: there's tremendous demand for their services. And the average cop almost certainly provides more value to society than the average programmer working on yet-another-CRUD-app. If wages were 2/3 of what they were now, even more companies could afford to higher programmers to build them custom CRUD applications to make their basic business processes more efficient and provide better services all around.
- zjaffee 8y ago
  No there is tremendous demand to work in those fields, a demand that is not being met because of price fixing. They could lower their wages and hire far more people to provide better services. There is no wage fixing in the tech industry in a way that results in people getting paid more.
  - Retric 8y ago
    The preference at companies like google for hiring from a small list of schools is self perpetuating and drives up wages. Worse, as with every other artificial limitation on hiring it actually lowers the quality of their employees.
    - zjaffee 8y ago
      Google and other top companies don't just hire engineers from a small list of schools though, additionally, they hire tons of people from industry. The majority of hires at FANGs went to state schools with huge student bodies and reasonable acceptance rates.
      - Retric 8y ago
        preference != requirement. Some companies prefer to higher from a specific state school, that again causes them to pay more for less talented applicants. Suppose you have two applications one with your hidden preference and one without. If your preference has say slightly less experience or requires slightly more pay, well they are a slightly better applicant in your mind so that’s ok.

gamblor956 8y ago

You just answered your own question about why cops and firefighters in NYC get paid so well: there's tremendous demand for their services. And the average cop almost certainly provides more value to society than the average programmer working on yet-another-CRUD-app. If wages were 2/3 of what they were now, even more companies could afford to higher programmers to build them custom CRUD applications to make their basic business processes more efficient and provide better services all around.

zjaffee 8y ago
No there is tremendous demand to work in those fields, a demand that is not being met because of price fixing. They could lower their wages and hire far more people to provide better services. There is no wage fixing in the tech industry in a way that results in people getting paid more.
- Retric 8y ago
  The preference at companies like google for hiring from a small list of schools is self perpetuating and drives up wages. Worse, as with every other artificial limitation on hiring it actually lowers the quality of their employees.
  - zjaffee 8y ago
    Google and other top companies don't just hire engineers from a small list of schools though, additionally, they hire tons of people from industry. The majority of hires at FANGs went to state schools with huge student bodies and reasonable acceptance rates.
    - Retric 8y ago
      preference != requirement. Some companies prefer to higher from a specific state school, that again causes them to pay more for less talented applicants. Suppose you have two applications one with your hidden preference and one without. If your preference has say slightly less experience or requires slightly more pay, well they are a slightly better applicant in your mind so that’s ok.