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Well, Mike Pence denounced china on October 3 while speaking at the Hudson Institute[0]. He specifically mentioned the million people in detention in Xinjiang.

Well, Mike Pence denounced china on October 3 while speaking at the Hudson Institute[0]. He specifically mentioned the million people in detention in Xinjiang. I've provided a link to the video in case you want to watch. [0] https://youtu.be/aeVrMniBjSc https://youtu.be/aeVrMniBjSc

3into10power5 8y ago
The cynic in me think public denouncing of countries or its leaders means nothing. Its just meant to pacify us commoners? Am I wrong to think so?
- krapp 8y ago
  > Its just meant to pacify us commoners? Am I wrong to think so? I think so, but only because I think governments know how little "us commoners" actually care, beyond wanting to virtue signal and wanting to see politicians raise a stink about things.
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bduerst 8y ago
Is this the same Mike Pence that supports the Muslim country travel ban ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769#/media/File:Trump_signing_order_January_27.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769#/media/F...
- kelukelugames 8y ago
  Trump demonizes both China and Islam. So I'm not sure what the best play for the Republican party is here. If you praise the Chinese government then that's going too far. But if you criticize them then you have to soften your own Islamophobia.
  - pavlov 8y ago
    Marco Rubio’s pronouncements on foreign human rights seem particularly awkward against his politically expedient born-again Trumpism.
- grej 8y ago
  No fan of the current administration, but there’s a massive difference between locking up and torturing millions of Muslims, and denying travel entry to citizens from certain majority-Muslim countries. Comparisons to the Japanese interment camps set up by FDR during WW2 would make more sense.
  - bduerst 8y ago
    You're right, but it's still hypocritical to morally condemn a prejudicial action against a people while you're acting out of prejudice against the same people. Especially since this moral condemnation seems conveniently timed and aligned with an active trade war. This Muslim ban came before the immigrant camps and migrant child detention centers, which Pence also supported. If we don't hold him accountable for hypocrisy, then who will?
- lainga 8y ago
  Was it the same FDR who turned away the MS Saint Louis in 1939?
  - bduerst 8y ago
    Considering a formal apology was issued by the state department to the surviving Saint Louis passengers, are we destined to keep repeating history's mistakes?
- shard972 8y ago
  Hm, weird muslim ban. It seems to miss the largest muslim populated country in the world...
themihai 8y ago
Ok, but what solutions did he offer? He could have suggested building a big wall around Xinjiang. China is good at building 'beautiful walls' anyway. I wonder how he missed that.
vkou 8y ago
Is he ready to offer the affected Uyghurs (Or even some large percentage of them) asylum in the US? I'm sure that if he made that offer, China would gladly exile them. Of course, he's not, though.

3into10power5 8y ago

The cynic in me think public denouncing of countries or its leaders means nothing. Its just meant to pacify us commoners? Am I wrong to think so?

krapp 8y ago
> Its just meant to pacify us commoners? Am I wrong to think so? I think so, but only because I think governments know how little "us commoners" actually care, beyond wanting to virtue signal and wanting to see politicians raise a stink about things.

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bduerst 8y ago

Is this the same Mike Pence that supports the Muslim country travel ban ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769#/media/File:Trump_signing_order_January_27.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769#/media/F...

kelukelugames 8y ago
Trump demonizes both China and Islam. So I'm not sure what the best play for the Republican party is here. If you praise the Chinese government then that's going too far. But if you criticize them then you have to soften your own Islamophobia.
- pavlov 8y ago
  Marco Rubio’s pronouncements on foreign human rights seem particularly awkward against his politically expedient born-again Trumpism.
grej 8y ago
No fan of the current administration, but there’s a massive difference between locking up and torturing millions of Muslims, and denying travel entry to citizens from certain majority-Muslim countries. Comparisons to the Japanese interment camps set up by FDR during WW2 would make more sense.
- bduerst 8y ago
  You're right, but it's still hypocritical to morally condemn a prejudicial action against a people while you're acting out of prejudice against the same people. Especially since this moral condemnation seems conveniently timed and aligned with an active trade war. This Muslim ban came before the immigrant camps and migrant child detention centers, which Pence also supported. If we don't hold him accountable for hypocrisy, then who will?
lainga 8y ago
Was it the same FDR who turned away the MS Saint Louis in 1939?
- bduerst 8y ago
  Considering a formal apology was issued by the state department to the surviving Saint Louis passengers, are we destined to keep repeating history's mistakes?
shard972 8y ago
Hm, weird muslim ban. It seems to miss the largest muslim populated country in the world...

themihai 8y ago

Ok, but what solutions did he offer? He could have suggested building a big wall around Xinjiang. China is good at building 'beautiful walls' anyway. I wonder how he missed that.

vkou 8y ago

Is he ready to offer the affected Uyghurs (Or even some large percentage of them) asylum in the US? I'm sure that if he made that offer, China would gladly exile them. Of course, he's not, though.