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>Does any other language even come close to this? Smalltalk

• black-tea 8y ago
  Interesting. But one of the points of Clojure is to get away from the object-oriented way so I'm not sure that I'd like Smalltalk.
  • chillpenguin 8y ago
    If I understand it correctly, Smalltalk is really nothing like Java and the mainstream OOP that Clojure is a reaction to.
    • pjmlp 8y ago
      Smalltalk is dynamic and Java is static. Smalltalk, it is an experience, given that language, IDE and runtime/OS are all blended together, while Java can only do so much, even with the more advanced IDEs. Clojure might be a reaction to C++/Java/C# OOP style, but it surely adopts Common Lisp OOP style.
    • zimablue 8y ago
      I think if things have private state that can't be seen externally and that's idiomatic then there's a conflict, if not then there isn't. Do you think it's worth learning Smalltalk? Is it still possible?
      • cjallen88 8y ago
        Have a look at http://pharo.org/documentation http://pharo.org/documentation (a modern smalltalk implementation), they have some good materials, also a discord server. I think it's worth learning, even if you never use it.
  • felixgallo 8y ago
    Erlang and elixir.
  • pjmlp 8y ago
    Yeah that is why it supports a subset of CLOS.
  • z3phyr 8y ago
    You have to try it to really understand what OO actually is. Its not the OO you might be familiar with..