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c) "yoloculture" (as I like to call it) greatly emphasis the self as the key virtue, hence the millennial and younger can't be bothered sacrificing "Sunday Fund

by jimmy1 8y ago

c) "yoloculture" (as I like to call it) greatly emphasis the self as the key virtue, hence the millennial and younger can't be bothered sacrificing "Sunday Funday" to attend an inconvenient service at 9 in the morning. Simultaneously, The rock concert megachurches with cult of personality pastors and have Starbucks inside them with much later start times and emphasize a message of self empowerment with gospel-y sounding words, however, seem to be thriving.

draw_down 8y ago
I recommend The Culture of Narcissism by Lasch, the focus on the self has been going on since well before millennials showed up.
woodruffw 8y ago
The only thing more constant than the darned kids is people complaining about the darned kids. "The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress." Peter the Hermit.
- rootusrootus 8y ago
  Wasn't he long dead by 1274? In any case, I love the quote. Just goes to show how timeless the generational bashing is.
  - woodruffw 8y ago
    Yep, he was. That's what I get for trusting the Internet! Edited.
  - jimmy1 8y ago
    I certainly agree older folk yelling at younger whippersnappers is a constant, but turn it on it's head for a moment: when it happens the other way around, no one questions it. "It's the Boomer's fault!" Millennial's proclaim, and every culture mag now runs a similar story. There is something to be said for the wisdom of elders. Yes we should discard the grumpy old complaining because of change, but are we to really say all the complaints are invalid just because "it's always been done?" I think of other societies, primarily Asian, that have deep respect for the thoughts and opinions of their elders. I think of how almost every faith, including the three major abrahamic religions explicity command followers to honor thy mother and thy father (which is generalized to honor your elders). Yet in this country, and most western countries, the fad is to kick the old out as soon as you can! "Out with the old, in with the new! Pay no mind to old people's grumbling! Their wisdom is invalided! Their opinions on culture and where society is headed is invalid!" -- And one can only wonder, is this why history is doomed to repeat itself over and over again? We blow off what the "geezers" are telling us "Psh! Get with the times old man, things are different now!" In my opinion, humanity hasn't changed much in the past couple thousand years. We would do better to listen to some more grumblings of the geezers. Maybe getting off a lawn or two wouldn't be so bad after all.
    - rootusrootus 8y ago
      I wouldn't necessarily say nobody questions it, but I agree that it is more socially acceptable to blame the boomers. But... it's not exactly unpopular to malign millenials, either. Personally if you gripe to me about boomers too much I will probably tell you to quit bitching and take some responsibility. In particular if you are young, I will remind you that you have more voters in your cohort than boomers do, so not only should you quit bitching, you should direct that energy to getting your fellow young'uns to go out and vote. After all, most of the consequences of today's politics will be borne by the young. I also think that as much wisdom as their may be in old people, there are lots and lots and lots of ignorant jerks who aren't worth the powder to blow 'em up. Same for young people. Conversely, I've met some teenagers with more innate wisdom than most people ever get in their whole life.
- taejo 8y ago
  "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." Aristophanes, over a millennium earlier.
  - bonesss 8y ago
    Several thousand years ago we invented lawns. That very same night we invented yelling at damned kids to stay off them :)

by jimmy1 8y ago

draw_down 8y ago

I recommend The Culture of Narcissism by Lasch, the focus on the self has been going on since well before millennials showed up.

woodruffw 8y ago

The only thing more constant than the darned kids is people complaining about the darned kids. "The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress." Peter the Hermit.

rootusrootus 8y ago
Wasn't he long dead by 1274? In any case, I love the quote. Just goes to show how timeless the generational bashing is.
- woodruffw 8y ago
  Yep, he was. That's what I get for trusting the Internet! Edited.
- jimmy1 8y ago
  I certainly agree older folk yelling at younger whippersnappers is a constant, but turn it on it's head for a moment: when it happens the other way around, no one questions it. "It's the Boomer's fault!" Millennial's proclaim, and every culture mag now runs a similar story. There is something to be said for the wisdom of elders. Yes we should discard the grumpy old complaining because of change, but are we to really say all the complaints are invalid just because "it's always been done?" I think of other societies, primarily Asian, that have deep respect for the thoughts and opinions of their elders. I think of how almost every faith, including the three major abrahamic religions explicity command followers to honor thy mother and thy father (which is generalized to honor your elders). Yet in this country, and most western countries, the fad is to kick the old out as soon as you can! "Out with the old, in with the new! Pay no mind to old people's grumbling! Their wisdom is invalided! Their opinions on culture and where society is headed is invalid!" -- And one can only wonder, is this why history is doomed to repeat itself over and over again? We blow off what the "geezers" are telling us "Psh! Get with the times old man, things are different now!" In my opinion, humanity hasn't changed much in the past couple thousand years. We would do better to listen to some more grumblings of the geezers. Maybe getting off a lawn or two wouldn't be so bad after all.
  - rootusrootus 8y ago
    I wouldn't necessarily say nobody questions it, but I agree that it is more socially acceptable to blame the boomers. But... it's not exactly unpopular to malign millenials, either. Personally if you gripe to me about boomers too much I will probably tell you to quit bitching and take some responsibility. In particular if you are young, I will remind you that you have more voters in your cohort than boomers do, so not only should you quit bitching, you should direct that energy to getting your fellow young'uns to go out and vote. After all, most of the consequences of today's politics will be borne by the young. I also think that as much wisdom as their may be in old people, there are lots and lots and lots of ignorant jerks who aren't worth the powder to blow 'em up. Same for young people. Conversely, I've met some teenagers with more innate wisdom than most people ever get in their whole life.
taejo 8y ago
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." Aristophanes, over a millennium earlier.
- bonesss 8y ago
  Several thousand years ago we invented lawns. That very same night we invented yelling at damned kids to stay off them :)