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Maybe there's a reason that there's a surplus of Oracle DBAs and a shortage of Postgres DBAs.

by coder543 8y ago

penagwin 8y ago
I'm in uni and everything is Microsoft, Oracle and Cisco.
- coder543 8y ago
  Universities are often... influenced by big companies, and do not necessarily use technologies that are representative of what you'll see in the real world. They could be, by random chance, but it’s not necessarily the case. Anecdotally, I usually hear from people that it wasn’t representative when they are comparing what they learned in college to what they use in the workforce. It also really annoys me when universities teach their students expensive, proprietary software that they won't be able to use outside of class when there are competent and often superior free options. These students are paying good money to learn, and the universities are intentionally choosing to teach them something less than the most beneficial knowledge that those students could reasonably be learning about.
  - da_chicken 8y ago
    IMX, universities are not influenced by companies as much as they are influenced by the inertia of established curriculum and limited interest from the professors to use a different tool that offers minimal benefits. Even if I'm teaching a class and using Oracle, I'm probably mostly teaching general relational databases where one is as good as any other. It's not the job of a conceptual RDBMS class to teach you the implementation details of arbitrary offerings; quite the opposite!
- mixmastamyk 8y ago
  That's a shame, and increasingly out of touch.
diminoten 8y ago
Yeah, it pays way more.
- coder543 8y ago
  If you're saying there are more Oracle DBAs because they are paid more, that's the opposite of the point I was making. Basic supply/demand economics would indicate that you'll have a surplus of something that is falling out of favor, and that surplus will be inexpensive. There would be many looking for jobs because it used to pay well when it was in demand and there was a shortage, not because they're making lots of money looking for jobs. If you're having trouble finding decent Postgres DBAs to hire, it could be that other companies are snapping up all the good ones, and that you're not offering enough. You're presenting anecdotes, I'm presenting anecdotes. Exciting stuff. Market shifts take quite a few years, so I'm sure there are still plenty of high paying Oracle DBA jobs, and I'm sure that there will probably always be some of those jobs to support legacy systems.

Maybe there's a reason that there's a surplus of Oracle DBAs and a shortage of Postgres DBAs.

penagwin 8y ago

I'm in uni and everything is Microsoft, Oracle and Cisco.

coder543 8y ago
Universities are often... influenced by big companies, and do not necessarily use technologies that are representative of what you'll see in the real world. They could be, by random chance, but it’s not necessarily the case. Anecdotally, I usually hear from people that it wasn’t representative when they are comparing what they learned in college to what they use in the workforce. It also really annoys me when universities teach their students expensive, proprietary software that they won't be able to use outside of class when there are competent and often superior free options. These students are paying good money to learn, and the universities are intentionally choosing to teach them something less than the most beneficial knowledge that those students could reasonably be learning about.
- da_chicken 8y ago
  IMX, universities are not influenced by companies as much as they are influenced by the inertia of established curriculum and limited interest from the professors to use a different tool that offers minimal benefits. Even if I'm teaching a class and using Oracle, I'm probably mostly teaching general relational databases where one is as good as any other. It's not the job of a conceptual RDBMS class to teach you the implementation details of arbitrary offerings; quite the opposite!
mixmastamyk 8y ago
That's a shame, and increasingly out of touch.

diminoten 8y ago

Yeah, it pays way more.

coder543 8y ago
If you're saying there are more Oracle DBAs because they are paid more, that's the opposite of the point I was making. Basic supply/demand economics would indicate that you'll have a surplus of something that is falling out of favor, and that surplus will be inexpensive. There would be many looking for jobs because it used to pay well when it was in demand and there was a shortage, not because they're making lots of money looking for jobs. If you're having trouble finding decent Postgres DBAs to hire, it could be that other companies are snapping up all the good ones, and that you're not offering enough. You're presenting anecdotes, I'm presenting anecdotes. Exciting stuff. Market shifts take quite a few years, so I'm sure there are still plenty of high paying Oracle DBA jobs, and I'm sure that there will probably always be some of those jobs to support legacy systems.