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If you're serious about this a "white male" ERG is probably not politically correct (sorry). I'd probably just go with a "special interest group" not tied to r

If you're serious about this a "white male" ERG is probably not politically correct (sorry). I'd probably just go with a "special interest group" not tied to race or gender. A gaming club, pickup sports club, something for dads.. I think Google has an ERG for older folks..

maxxxxx 8y ago
I am not serious a white ERG. My point is that race, gender or sexuality based groups are not "diverse". I also find it hypocritical that only some groups are allowed to have a race/heritage based ERG whereas others will be called racist if they do so.
- jackvalentine 8y ago
  I saw someone write something pretty good about this in relation to the idea a few years back and let me try and regurgitate it. I'll probably screw it up though so please use the principle of charity when reading. -- Why are 'black pride' and 'white pride' not equal? The 'white' cultures of the west usually made it through to their colonies fairly intact and recognizable. The French, the Irish (ignoring changing notions of what 'white' is), the Germans etc. So be proud! Be proud of your Irish heritage, your French heritage, your Croatian heritage. Black people in America... African slaves came from all over Central and West Africa. Their culture was very quickly all melted together in America and the genealogy muddied and for the most part a modern descendant can't say empirically exactly where in Africa their ancestors came from, let alone have had the elements of culture from that place handed down to them reliably. So the only 'shared experience' of black people in America is... being black in America. Then combine in the historic issues of being a 'lesser' race in American history and "black power" or "black interest groups" and holidays like Kwanzaa are a response to that. --- Anyway, they're not my thoughts but I've paraphrased them as best as I can remember. It makes sense to me at least as a starting point. What do you think? The real spanner in the works for this line of thinking is 'asian' groups lumping together all the individual cultures of asia! Ideally, one day we'll have lived alongside each other long enough that this is all a historic curiosity in the same way 'whiteness' has vastly broadened it's scope in the last 100 years.

maxxxxx 8y ago

I am not serious a white ERG. My point is that race, gender or sexuality based groups are not "diverse". I also find it hypocritical that only some groups are allowed to have a race/heritage based ERG whereas others will be called racist if they do so.

jackvalentine 8y ago
I saw someone write something pretty good about this in relation to the idea a few years back and let me try and regurgitate it. I'll probably screw it up though so please use the principle of charity when reading. -- Why are 'black pride' and 'white pride' not equal? The 'white' cultures of the west usually made it through to their colonies fairly intact and recognizable. The French, the Irish (ignoring changing notions of what 'white' is), the Germans etc. So be proud! Be proud of your Irish heritage, your French heritage, your Croatian heritage. Black people in America... African slaves came from all over Central and West Africa. Their culture was very quickly all melted together in America and the genealogy muddied and for the most part a modern descendant can't say empirically exactly where in Africa their ancestors came from, let alone have had the elements of culture from that place handed down to them reliably. So the only 'shared experience' of black people in America is... being black in America. Then combine in the historic issues of being a 'lesser' race in American history and "black power" or "black interest groups" and holidays like Kwanzaa are a response to that. --- Anyway, they're not my thoughts but I've paraphrased them as best as I can remember. It makes sense to me at least as a starting point. What do you think? The real spanner in the works for this line of thinking is 'asian' groups lumping together all the individual cultures of asia! Ideally, one day we'll have lived alongside each other long enough that this is all a historic curiosity in the same way 'whiteness' has vastly broadened it's scope in the last 100 years.