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Why are you saying this like it's a bad thing? Transportation development has time over time been proven to work best when decisions are made by consensus rathe
by zjaffee 8y ago
Why are you saying this like it's a bad thing? Transportation development has time over time been proven to work best when decisions are made by consensus rather than by letting central authorities and monied interests do whatever they think is right.
Had this never happened, LA would have far worse pollution problems than it does today, and NYC would be completely overrun with highways.
- quotemstr 8y agoHas a consensus-based approach been proven "best"? New York would be much worse off today if not for Robert Moses ramming through much-needed and innotative infrastructure. Consensus, in practice, amounts to giving everyone the power to veto massive projects, and widespread veto power leads to paralysis and weakness. You need strong central authority to actually make decisions and get things to happen.
- zjaffee 8y agoThe entire premise of things happening cannot in this day and age be something that involves screwing over the working class as has been the case with the vast majority of urban planning decisions historically, abet is also something that is starting to get better now. I cannot understand how so many of my fellow Americans love to talk about the merits of democracy, but when it comes to large scale capital projects, either public or private, people suddenly hate democratic decision making. Moses sized power completely ignoring the democratic process, and had musk built these tunnels, he'd have done the same.