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The issues is not that we don't want these things. People cheer for NASA and you hardly ever read anything negative about those missions. Elon is why people co

The issues is not that we don't want these things. People cheer for NASA and you hardly ever read anything negative about those missions. Elon is why people complain. He rubs a lot of people the wrong way with this tweets and attitude. You can be diplomatic and move things forward or you can be abrasive like Elon and also move forward.

johnnyfaehell 8y ago
> You can be diplomatic and move things forward or you can be abrasive like Elon and also move forward. Just curious, can you name some people who have been diplomatic and managed to move things as far forward? I honestly can't think of many actual achievers that have been diplomatic about things.
- macintux 8y ago
  There’s some line to be drawn between acceptable abrasiveness and calling critics pedophiles.
  - johnnyfaehell 8y ago
    What if said critic is a paedophile or he had a valid reason to believe it such as being told it by lots of locals? If someone is a paedophile, I think to call them it, should be perfectly acceptable.
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vinceguidry 8y ago
History is built by people like this. Every mover and shaker in the world has had strong opinions and the ability to get people behind them. This pisses off the people that want to see the world stay the same or at least within their own parameters. It takes a certain kind of person to do what Elon does, and the personality is non-negotiable, apparently.
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thrower123 8y ago
The kind of people that want to see a brilliant person who is doing good work fail because he is not a nice guy irritate the hell out of me. I'm not totally sold that you have to be an asshole to progress things, but being wrapped up in pussy-footing around and not ruffling any feathers takes a helluva lot of energy out that could be directed towards real goals.
quotemstr 8y ago
When you move things forward, you produce change, and this change inevitably bothers people who are comfortable in the existing order. These people will attack the source of the change, claiming that he's insensitive and undiplomatic or whatever merely because he doesn't let the minority that would be bothered by inconvenient change block that change. Consequently, anyone who accomolishes something meaningful will be called a jerk. You can't do meaningful work while being universally well-liked. The world doesn't work that way.

johnnyfaehell 8y ago

> You can be diplomatic and move things forward or you can be abrasive like Elon and also move forward. Just curious, can you name some people who have been diplomatic and managed to move things as far forward? I honestly can't think of many actual achievers that have been diplomatic about things.

macintux 8y ago
There’s some line to be drawn between acceptable abrasiveness and calling critics pedophiles.
- johnnyfaehell 8y ago
  What if said critic is a paedophile or he had a valid reason to believe it such as being told it by lots of locals? If someone is a paedophile, I think to call them it, should be perfectly acceptable.
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vinceguidry 8y ago

History is built by people like this. Every mover and shaker in the world has had strong opinions and the ability to get people behind them. This pisses off the people that want to see the world stay the same or at least within their own parameters. It takes a certain kind of person to do what Elon does, and the personality is non-negotiable, apparently.

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thrower123 8y ago

The kind of people that want to see a brilliant person who is doing good work fail because he is not a nice guy irritate the hell out of me. I'm not totally sold that you have to be an asshole to progress things, but being wrapped up in pussy-footing around and not ruffling any feathers takes a helluva lot of energy out that could be directed towards real goals.

quotemstr 8y ago

When you move things forward, you produce change, and this change inevitably bothers people who are comfortable in the existing order. These people will attack the source of the change, claiming that he's insensitive and undiplomatic or whatever merely because he doesn't let the minority that would be bothered by inconvenient change block that change. Consequently, anyone who accomolishes something meaningful will be called a jerk. You can't do meaningful work while being universally well-liked. The world doesn't work that way.