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Well, that was completely predictable. It's not obvious to me that any of the Boring Company plans are anything except vaporware.

_pmf_ 8y ago
> It's not obvious to me that any of the Boring Company plans are anything except vaporware. Not at all: https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower/ https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower/ This is actually Grimes' boyfriend's most profitable product.
ABS 8y ago
have you read the reason why this was dropped?
- jeletonskelly 8y ago
  What were the environmental impacts they briefly mention?
  - ABS 8y ago
    I have no idea, don't even live in the US :) but the second paragraph mentions the reason this was dropped (local lawsuits ) so found... peculiar the vaporware snark
- sschueller 8y ago
  "review of its potential environment impact" Kind of ironic that the man who for many is seen as saving the planet with his electric vehicles is trying to avoid an environment impact study.
  - leesec 8y ago
    Why do you think he's trying to avoid it? “The parties (The Boring Company, Brentwood Residents Coalition, Sunset Coalition, and Wendy-Sue Rosen) have amicably settled the matter"
  - moduspol 8y ago
    I think it's either incredibly naive or willfully misleading to frame this as simply "wanting to avoid an environment impact study." It could more accurately be described as, "concerned and organized opposition taking every available legal step to delay and increase the costs of the project under the guise of genuine and valid concern." And succeeding, as it seems. Although it's tough for me to feel too sorry for Californians being negatively impacted by a complex and bureaucratic legal nightmare that enables exactly this kind of NIMBYism.
imglorp 8y ago
I'm curious about the continued negativity on this. Hasn't he pretty much accomplished everything he has said? Batteries, cars, solar, space, it's all working.
- guelo 8y ago
  The hyperloop has proven to be absolute bullshit, just like knowledgeable engineers predicted at the time it was announced. Which is part of my dislike of him, all the dishonest hype, and the hordes of online defenders like yourself that just talk about the marketing vision but not about the engineering.
- leesec 8y ago
  Honestly, I cannot help but get frustrated even though I know I shouldn't. How are people rooting against this person? Do they not want space exploration/green technology/incredible cars/transportation innovation/globally accessible satellite internet/self driving cars/etc? I don't even really understand where the hate comes from, because he missed a few deadlines, because he dreams big? I'm sure his critics have missed more than a few deadlines, and on things not nearly as important/world changing.
  - sschueller 8y ago
    The issues is not that we don't want these things. People cheer for NASA and you hardly ever read anything negative about those missions. Elon is why people complain. He rubs a lot of people the wrong way with this tweets and attitude. You can be diplomatic and move things forward or you can be abrasive like Elon and also move forward.
    - johnnyfaehell 8y ago
      > You can be diplomatic and move things forward or you can be abrasive like Elon and also move forward. Just curious, can you name some people who have been diplomatic and managed to move things as far forward? I honestly can't think of many actual achievers that have been diplomatic about things.

_pmf_ 8y ago

> It's not obvious to me that any of the Boring Company plans are anything except vaporware. Not at all: https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower/ https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower/ This is actually Grimes' boyfriend's most profitable product.

ABS 8y ago

have you read the reason why this was dropped?

jeletonskelly 8y ago
What were the environmental impacts they briefly mention?
- ABS 8y ago
  I have no idea, don't even live in the US :) but the second paragraph mentions the reason this was dropped (local lawsuits ) so found... peculiar the vaporware snark
sschueller 8y ago
"review of its potential environment impact" Kind of ironic that the man who for many is seen as saving the planet with his electric vehicles is trying to avoid an environment impact study.
- leesec 8y ago
  Why do you think he's trying to avoid it? “The parties (The Boring Company, Brentwood Residents Coalition, Sunset Coalition, and Wendy-Sue Rosen) have amicably settled the matter"
- moduspol 8y ago
  I think it's either incredibly naive or willfully misleading to frame this as simply "wanting to avoid an environment impact study." It could more accurately be described as, "concerned and organized opposition taking every available legal step to delay and increase the costs of the project under the guise of genuine and valid concern." And succeeding, as it seems. Although it's tough for me to feel too sorry for Californians being negatively impacted by a complex and bureaucratic legal nightmare that enables exactly this kind of NIMBYism.

imglorp 8y ago

I'm curious about the continued negativity on this. Hasn't he pretty much accomplished everything he has said? Batteries, cars, solar, space, it's all working.

guelo 8y ago
The hyperloop has proven to be absolute bullshit, just like knowledgeable engineers predicted at the time it was announced. Which is part of my dislike of him, all the dishonest hype, and the hordes of online defenders like yourself that just talk about the marketing vision but not about the engineering.
leesec 8y ago
Honestly, I cannot help but get frustrated even though I know I shouldn't. How are people rooting against this person? Do they not want space exploration/green technology/incredible cars/transportation innovation/globally accessible satellite internet/self driving cars/etc? I don't even really understand where the hate comes from, because he missed a few deadlines, because he dreams big? I'm sure his critics have missed more than a few deadlines, and on things not nearly as important/world changing.
- sschueller 8y ago
  The issues is not that we don't want these things. People cheer for NASA and you hardly ever read anything negative about those missions. Elon is why people complain. He rubs a lot of people the wrong way with this tweets and attitude. You can be diplomatic and move things forward or you can be abrasive like Elon and also move forward.
  - johnnyfaehell 8y ago
    > You can be diplomatic and move things forward or you can be abrasive like Elon and also move forward. Just curious, can you name some people who have been diplomatic and managed to move things as far forward? I honestly can't think of many actual achievers that have been diplomatic about things.