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Many many years ago I had a small web development business making websites for clients. These clients were typical small to medium sized business. Most of the w

by pan69 8y ago

Many many years ago I had a small web development business making websites for clients. These clients were typical small to medium sized business. Most of the websites we produced were made with WordPress, because, all our clients wanted to update their own website. However, out of the many clients we had built websites for over the years, only one client actually managed to update their own website by themselves. The others just called us whenever they wanted to update their website and just paid us to do it for them. This was because updating websites was easy for "us" since we did it day in and day out, we had "context" and we "understood" how it worked whereas for our clients, regardless of all they easy buttons they could click, it was still to difficult to operate. I admire the work you have put in and you've created a great project. But point and click programming will make it easier for "programmers", not for everyone else to write software.

milansuk 8y ago
The current version of ChangeOver is like an assembler! I had to go through this painful process to build "base" version. I understand you. What you're seeing right now is just point&click GUI, relational database and point&click programming with REPL. Nothing new. But there will be a lot more. Today's IDEs can finish the words(sometimes lines) for you. ChangeOver will finish your algorithms. Try imagine two cloud apps side by side and you just connect them without using APIs or some 3rd party services like Zapier. And more. I believe that everyone wants to make their ideas real. And sure, there will be always incidental complexity and people will suffer a little bit. Today's platforms don't really have IDEs, they just tell you: give us file with javascript/python/etc.. Web, Mobile and Desktop apps are mostly fixed for end-user. That's why I really like PowerPoint for it's all in one(run/browse presentation, but also create/edit). Of course, presentations have limited use-cases. What we need is a new "standard". People don't put Excel on their CVs anymore, because everyone knows it. When you have a problem with a spreadsheet you don't call MS technical support or outsource it like a web development, but you solve it inside the company. Web or WordPress are probably still too complicated.

by pan69 8y ago

milansuk 8y ago

The current version of ChangeOver is like an assembler! I had to go through this painful process to build "base" version. I understand you. What you're seeing right now is just point&click GUI, relational database and point&click programming with REPL. Nothing new. But there will be a lot more. Today's IDEs can finish the words(sometimes lines) for you. ChangeOver will finish your algorithms. Try imagine two cloud apps side by side and you just connect them without using APIs or some 3rd party services like Zapier. And more. I believe that everyone wants to make their ideas real. And sure, there will be always incidental complexity and people will suffer a little bit. Today's platforms don't really have IDEs, they just tell you: give us file with javascript/python/etc.. Web, Mobile and Desktop apps are mostly fixed for end-user. That's why I really like PowerPoint for it's all in one(run/browse presentation, but also create/edit). Of course, presentations have limited use-cases. What we need is a new "standard". People don't put Excel on their CVs anymore, because everyone knows it. When you have a problem with a spreadsheet you don't call MS technical support or outsource it like a web development, but you solve it inside the company. Web or WordPress are probably still too complicated.