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For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, but along thes

by ghotli 8y ago

For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, but along these lines I never found the track in this article. It's really good and it reminds me of E2-E4 [1] [2] by Manuel Göttsching. Which I found because the guy from LCD Soundsystem is quoted in the wikipedia article that when he did 45:33 that he wanted to make something like "E2-E4". [3] [4] Neither of which sound like A Love Supreme [5] [6] by John Coltrane but I always associated them in my mind as a kind of their own kinda thing in music's past. Posting for no other reason than that maybe you'll like these too. [1] https://youtu.be/ys0HyevZpQg https://youtu.be/ys0HyevZpQg [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E2-E4 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E2-E4 [3] https://youtu.be/72-ebRSMJdE https://youtu.be/72-ebRSMJdE [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/45%3A33 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/45%3A33 [5] https://youtu.be/ll3CMgiUPuU https://youtu.be/ll3CMgiUPuU [6] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Love_Supreme https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Love_Supreme

pugworthy 8y ago
Is this representative of what's on that play list? I really don't want to sign up for "yet another thing" to hear the original link.
- lfam 8y ago
  No, none of that music sounds like acid house.
- voltagex_ 8y ago
  DRM free - https://traxrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lidell-townsell https://traxrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lidell-townsell
neom 8y ago
Seems like you really know your house. Not sure if you're musically inclined but if so the OP-1 is a great tool[1][2]. If you ever make it to nyc hit me up, I know James well and I'm sure he'd enjoy your thoughts around E2-E4. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqThYqldBI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqThYqldBI [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umatbZ0n4mE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umatbZ0n4mE
- alakdoellan 8y ago
  I ordered the op1 back in August and haven't received it yet. But I just picked up the opz last week and it's completely blown my mind, surpassed all my expectations by a considerable margin, and proven to be my go-to subway entertainment. I intend to listen to all these tracks at work tomorrow, If you have any more in an organized list somewhere I'd love to hear it. I've recently become completely obsessed with house and I can't get enough.
  - neom 8y ago
    I don't have a more organized list, I just youtube around when I'm bored. Here is a cool thing though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhFIUdICYSA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhFIUdICYSA
- n4r9 8y ago
  Would you call that house where you're from? I think most people in the UK would pretty quickly say the Göttsching and LCD Soundsystem tracks are techno, and the Phuture track in the article is straight up acid techno. House tends to be lighter, slightly slower and more euphoric, e.g. this I would call acid house: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhxpMnfHB0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhxpMnfHB0 I'm intrigued because I knew an American at uni who insisted that almost all electronic music counted as "techno".
  - new_here 8y ago
    House originally started out with a faster tempo around 130 BMP which then slowed to 120 BPM over time. The acid sound has more to do with the squelched bass sound produced by the synths being discussed here. So your sample is acid house, just at a slower tempo which wasn't as common with the earlier samples.
    - bascule 8y ago
      Most early house songs were ~120BPM. This includes: Frankie Knuckles - Your Love, Jesse Saunders - On and On, Mr. Fingers - Can You Feel It, Marshal Jefferson - Move Your Body (The House Music Anthem)
weinzierl 8y ago
> For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, [..] I liked to play a similar game: Digging up the original songs that were the source of samples. Found real gems this way too.
spacec0wb0y 8y ago
Thank you for introducing E2-E4 to my life. As a fellow crate-digger & influence trail-sniffer it feels like it's gonna jump right up there to the top of my electronic list with Selected Ambient Works.
rorykoehler 8y ago
I love doing this too. Also with samples.
dep_b 8y ago
The E2-E4 track was sampled in "Sueño Latino" which was an early Balearic House hit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhqDeTSEl4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhqDeTSEl4 It was remixed by Derrick May into a masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBP6U77KnCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBP6U77KnCE
FraKtus 8y ago
E2-E4 was a breakthrough. It's descendent of the Berlin school of electronic music of the 70's. It's difficult to place that track in a genre, for me it's just electronic music. The long guitar solos of the B face is not something you will find in Acid/Dance music. It's one of the first releases of the "Inteam" record label that Klaus Schulze created after failing with his first "Innovative Communication" label. Schulze and Göttsching were exploring new musical directions there. They definitively were having fun!

by ghotli 8y ago

pugworthy 8y ago

Is this representative of what's on that play list? I really don't want to sign up for "yet another thing" to hear the original link.

lfam 8y ago
No, none of that music sounds like acid house.
voltagex_ 8y ago
DRM free - https://traxrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lidell-townsell https://traxrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lidell-townsell

neom 8y ago

Seems like you really know your house. Not sure if you're musically inclined but if so the OP-1 is a great tool[1][2]. If you ever make it to nyc hit me up, I know James well and I'm sure he'd enjoy your thoughts around E2-E4. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqThYqldBI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqThYqldBI [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umatbZ0n4mE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umatbZ0n4mE

alakdoellan 8y ago
I ordered the op1 back in August and haven't received it yet. But I just picked up the opz last week and it's completely blown my mind, surpassed all my expectations by a considerable margin, and proven to be my go-to subway entertainment. I intend to listen to all these tracks at work tomorrow, If you have any more in an organized list somewhere I'd love to hear it. I've recently become completely obsessed with house and I can't get enough.
- neom 8y ago
  I don't have a more organized list, I just youtube around when I'm bored. Here is a cool thing though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhFIUdICYSA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhFIUdICYSA
n4r9 8y ago
Would you call that house where you're from? I think most people in the UK would pretty quickly say the Göttsching and LCD Soundsystem tracks are techno, and the Phuture track in the article is straight up acid techno. House tends to be lighter, slightly slower and more euphoric, e.g. this I would call acid house: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhxpMnfHB0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhxpMnfHB0 I'm intrigued because I knew an American at uni who insisted that almost all electronic music counted as "techno".
- new_here 8y ago
  House originally started out with a faster tempo around 130 BMP which then slowed to 120 BPM over time. The acid sound has more to do with the squelched bass sound produced by the synths being discussed here. So your sample is acid house, just at a slower tempo which wasn't as common with the earlier samples.
  - bascule 8y ago
    Most early house songs were ~120BPM. This includes: Frankie Knuckles - Your Love, Jesse Saunders - On and On, Mr. Fingers - Can You Feel It, Marshal Jefferson - Move Your Body (The House Music Anthem)

weinzierl 8y ago

> For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, [..] I liked to play a similar game: Digging up the original songs that were the source of samples. Found real gems this way too.

spacec0wb0y 8y ago

Thank you for introducing E2-E4 to my life. As a fellow crate-digger & influence trail-sniffer it feels like it's gonna jump right up there to the top of my electronic list with Selected Ambient Works.

rorykoehler 8y ago

I love doing this too. Also with samples.

dep_b 8y ago

The E2-E4 track was sampled in "Sueño Latino" which was an early Balearic House hit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhqDeTSEl4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhqDeTSEl4 It was remixed by Derrick May into a masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBP6U77KnCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBP6U77KnCE

FraKtus 8y ago

E2-E4 was a breakthrough. It's descendent of the Berlin school of electronic music of the 70's. It's difficult to place that track in a genre, for me it's just electronic music. The long guitar solos of the B face is not something you will find in Acid/Dance music. It's one of the first releases of the "Inteam" record label that Klaus Schulze created after failing with his first "Innovative Communication" label. Schulze and Göttsching were exploring new musical directions there. They definitively were having fun!