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Well, most post-Soviet countries are also not police countries. People there are not used seeing police act much and police using weapons would be a massive new

Well, most post-Soviet countries are also not police countries. People there are not used seeing police act much and police using weapons would be a massive news worthy story.

coolspot 8y ago
Maybe western ones are not, but most coming to my mind are non-free police states - Belarus[1], Tajikistan[2], Kazakhstan[3], Azerbaijan[4], Kyrgyzstan[5], Uzbekistan[6] and so on. [1] - https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/belarus https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/belarus [2] - https://freedomhouse.org/country/tajikistan https://freedomhouse.org/country/tajikistan [3] - https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/kazakhstan https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/kazakhsta... [4] - https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/azerbaijan https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/azerbaija... [5] - https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/kyrgyzstan https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/kyrgyzsta... [6] - https://freedomhouse.org/country/uzbekistan https://freedomhouse.org/country/uzbekistan
- zzzcpan 8y ago
  Yeah, I was hesitating whether to write most. The thing is though, even those non-free states are not as brutal on policing as the US.
  - coolspot 8y ago
    As someone who lived in Russia first 23 years and now living in US, I can not agree. US has one of the lowest ratios of police force per capita - 284 officers per 100k citizens [1]. Compare to Belarus - 1442 per 100k citizens and Russia’s 515 per 100k. [1] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_number_of_police_officers https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_depend...
    - aplummer 8y ago
      I mean, I don’t know how many police New Zealand has per capita (I think regarded as the most “free” country) however isn’t it more the application of force than the quantity of police? If they are all directing traffic it’s not a police state.
      - hippich 8y ago
        They are there to protect the state from the population. Since population doesn't have much means to harm the state, hence police are acting more "mildly", but no way they are doing traffic regulation mostly (in fact I can count on fingers of one hand seeing cops regulating traffic in Belarus)
newname2018 8y ago
The scariest thing a person in this world can hear is : I'm the police, and I'm here to help

Well, most post-Soviet countries are also not police countries. People there are not used seeing police act much and police using weapons would be a massive news worthy story.

coolspot 8y ago

Maybe western ones are not, but most coming to my mind are non-free police states - Belarus[1], Tajikistan[2], Kazakhstan[3], Azerbaijan[4], Kyrgyzstan[5], Uzbekistan[6] and so on. [1] - https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/belarus https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/belarus [2] - https://freedomhouse.org/country/tajikistan https://freedomhouse.org/country/tajikistan [3] - https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/kazakhstan https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/kazakhsta... [4] - https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/azerbaijan https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/azerbaija... [5] - https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/kyrgyzstan https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2018/kyrgyzsta... [6] - https://freedomhouse.org/country/uzbekistan https://freedomhouse.org/country/uzbekistan

zzzcpan 8y ago
Yeah, I was hesitating whether to write most. The thing is though, even those non-free states are not as brutal on policing as the US.
- coolspot 8y ago
  As someone who lived in Russia first 23 years and now living in US, I can not agree. US has one of the lowest ratios of police force per capita - 284 officers per 100k citizens [1]. Compare to Belarus - 1442 per 100k citizens and Russia’s 515 per 100k. [1] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_number_of_police_officers https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_depend...
  - aplummer 8y ago
    I mean, I don’t know how many police New Zealand has per capita (I think regarded as the most “free” country) however isn’t it more the application of force than the quantity of police? If they are all directing traffic it’s not a police state.
    - hippich 8y ago
      They are there to protect the state from the population. Since population doesn't have much means to harm the state, hence police are acting more "mildly", but no way they are doing traffic regulation mostly (in fact I can count on fingers of one hand seeing cops regulating traffic in Belarus)

newname2018 8y ago

The scariest thing a person in this world can hear is : I'm the police, and I'm here to help