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I forgot to mention one other pair of related things. * Clearly indicate who the OEM of the product is. * Clearly indicate the exact mode number(s) the

I forgot to mention one other pair of related things. * Clearly indicate who the OEM of the product is. * Clearly indicate the exact mode number(s) the product might be (including revision number). That would complete actually 'advertising' a real and specific product. If sellers lie about things then they can be hit with fraud charges and actually punished. The lack of co-mingling or white-listed only co-mingling (and actually tracking who's touched a given product) would allow for determining the authenticity and reputation of sellers / returned item fraud issues. Including items should be returnable for reasons including 'fraud, item not as listed / shown'.

ikeboy 8y ago
Not as described is an option when returning and if you get too many of those Amazon will suspend
- mjevans 8y ago
  You'll note the description of my proposed return reason includes the photos as part of the description (not sure if that's currently implied) as well as requiring actual product manufacturer and model numbers.
  - ikeboy 8y ago
    The brand name is required on listings and there's a model number field
    - mjevans 8y ago
      Not /the/ brand name, /a/ brand name. I'm saying the actual manufacturer should be required, as in, whichever factory made the parts, not the fly by night name so many rebranded products have.
      - ikeboy 8y ago
        What if, like many products, it's made in multiple factories?
        mjevans 8y ago
        Ultimately I'm asking for transparency to the consumer, including tractability to actual component manufacturers. Warehousing doesn't count, but combining a number of small things together in to one big thing does. There are a couple different approaches, and no reason you'd need to stick with only one. Consumer transparency is the only true requirement (Be SPECIFIC, Never Lie or lie by omission, also only allow things like "non-ecc" in ways that exclude the text from normal searches). For example: Iphone Model (specific year model/type), By Apple, Built in Apple Approved factories (external link). Example licensed cosmetic product "brand name" Shampoo, Brand, Co-mingled (sold by X), Manufactured in one or more of (exhaustive list) Example licensed cosmetic product "brand name" Shampoo, Brand, Sold by Y (no shared inventory), Manufactured in (short list of pharmaceutical labs in a few US states). Real Cane Sugar Cola, SodaCola Brand, Bottled in List X (short list of pharmaceutical labs in a few US states, only specific manufacturers could be picked as well, shipping time would vary).
        ikeboy 8y ago
        Half these things are trade secrets for any number of major brands. Coke is not going to tell you the supplier for each and every ingredient in a bottle.

ikeboy 8y ago

Not as described is an option when returning and if you get too many of those Amazon will suspend

mjevans 8y ago
You'll note the description of my proposed return reason includes the photos as part of the description (not sure if that's currently implied) as well as requiring actual product manufacturer and model numbers.
- ikeboy 8y ago
  The brand name is required on listings and there's a model number field
  - mjevans 8y ago
    Not /the/ brand name, /a/ brand name. I'm saying the actual manufacturer should be required, as in, whichever factory made the parts, not the fly by night name so many rebranded products have.
    - ikeboy 8y ago
      What if, like many products, it's made in multiple factories?
      - mjevans 8y ago
        Ultimately I'm asking for transparency to the consumer, including tractability to actual component manufacturers. Warehousing doesn't count, but combining a number of small things together in to one big thing does. There are a couple different approaches, and no reason you'd need to stick with only one. Consumer transparency is the only true requirement (Be SPECIFIC, Never Lie or lie by omission, also only allow things like "non-ecc" in ways that exclude the text from normal searches). For example: Iphone Model (specific year model/type), By Apple, Built in Apple Approved factories (external link). Example licensed cosmetic product "brand name" Shampoo, Brand, Co-mingled (sold by X), Manufactured in one or more of (exhaustive list) Example licensed cosmetic product "brand name" Shampoo, Brand, Sold by Y (no shared inventory), Manufactured in (short list of pharmaceutical labs in a few US states). Real Cane Sugar Cola, SodaCola Brand, Bottled in List X (short list of pharmaceutical labs in a few US states, only specific manufacturers could be picked as well, shipping time would vary).
        ikeboy 8y ago
        Half these things are trade secrets for any number of major brands. Coke is not going to tell you the supplier for each and every ingredient in a bottle.