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Yes, and it becomes even more politically difficult to request more funding for police departments when activists paint all police with the same brush and somet

by x220 8y ago

Yes, and it becomes even more politically difficult to request more funding for police departments when activists paint all police with the same brush and sometimes want to literally abolish the police.

Someone1234 8y ago
I don't see how? Both police and police activists want better training, police to keep themselves safe, and activists to reduce the prevalence of incidents. It is a win/win politically. Now getting people to pay higher taxes to fund it? That's the real challenge.
- x220 8y ago
  I think that most activists want those things. Some activists are like the person in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIEZf8Skx4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIEZf8Skx4
  - Someone1234 8y ago
    It isn't reasonable to define an entire group by their biggest extremists. I've read some pretty outlandish things by upset police officers too, but just like this, I don't think it is a reflection of the majority's opinion on the topic.
    - x220 8y ago
      There are activists that think that more resources given to the police will be used by the police (a mechanism of oppression) to oppress minorities and underprivileged groups even more. This is not a fringe belief. Many people with these beliefs vote, are very active in social movements, organize protests, and steer the conversations around viral events. If people with these beliefs are leading a movement and having an impact, it is entirely reasonable to confront these beliefs and take them seriously.
PavlovsCat 8y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6tTfoifB7Q&t=3m07s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6tTfoifB7Q&t=3m07s Why administrative leave? Why not "changed jobs because they were completely shunned by their colleagues after this incident". It wouldn't even cost a cent to achieve that, just personal integrity. Can't have "the blue shield" and "not all cops" at the same time, pick one and then own that decision.

by x220 8y ago

Someone1234 8y ago

I don't see how? Both police and police activists want better training, police to keep themselves safe, and activists to reduce the prevalence of incidents. It is a win/win politically. Now getting people to pay higher taxes to fund it? That's the real challenge.

x220 8y ago
I think that most activists want those things. Some activists are like the person in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIEZf8Skx4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIEZf8Skx4
- Someone1234 8y ago
  It isn't reasonable to define an entire group by their biggest extremists. I've read some pretty outlandish things by upset police officers too, but just like this, I don't think it is a reflection of the majority's opinion on the topic.
  - x220 8y ago
    There are activists that think that more resources given to the police will be used by the police (a mechanism of oppression) to oppress minorities and underprivileged groups even more. This is not a fringe belief. Many people with these beliefs vote, are very active in social movements, organize protests, and steer the conversations around viral events. If people with these beliefs are leading a movement and having an impact, it is entirely reasonable to confront these beliefs and take them seriously.

PavlovsCat 8y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6tTfoifB7Q&t=3m07s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6tTfoifB7Q&t=3m07s Why administrative leave? Why not "changed jobs because they were completely shunned by their colleagues after this incident". It wouldn't even cost a cent to achieve that, just personal integrity. Can't have "the blue shield" and "not all cops" at the same time, pick one and then own that decision.