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Well in USA civilians can buy automatic rifles and high caliber armor piercing sniper rifles... that does not necessary mean that its a good idea.

all2 8y ago
It is an excellent idea. An armed populous is an excellent deterrent of tyranny. And with the way the US is headed, an armed populous may be the only thing that stands between freedom and absolute tyranny.
- 51lver 8y ago
  Upvoting for historical reasons.
penagwin 8y ago
Nitpick: you can buy automatic rifles made before 1986 (might be off on the date but you get the idea). You can't go buy a brand new automatic. * you can however buy a modern rifle that's made to have its automatic mode disabled, but my understanding is that it's trivial to modify to become automatic (but it will no longer be legal)
- tomschlick 8y ago
  > You can't go buy a brand new automatic. Also the ones that are on the market (pre-86) go for tens of thousands of dollars to start. They are basically coveted by rich collectors who show them off at designated "machine gun shoot" days at specialty ranges. > but my understanding is that it's trivial to modify to become automatic It's not trivial. Requires decent gun-smithing skill, the ability to craft an auto sear, and some extra parts. To my knowledge no one has been confirmed to have done that and convicted of it in recent history.
  - int_19h 8y ago
    It is trivial. You don't need to craft an auto sear - you can just buy one. https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/m-16-full-auto-lpk/ https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/m-16-full-auto-lpk/ The reason why it's legal is because these will only fit in a full auto receiver, which is the regulated part. But most semi-auto lower receivers can be converted to accept said full auto trigger group simply by drilling a single hole in the receiver. Which is also fairly trivial, given that you're drilling aluminum, and jigs are readily available: https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/m-16-drilling-jig/ https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/m-16-drilling-jig/ If you ever hear references to the "third hole" in gun context, or see the meme linked below, that's what it is about. https://i.imgur.com/HgPfXdl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HgPfXdl.jpg
  - King-Aaron 8y ago
    > It's not trivial. I had an old 12-gauge semi that you could break a match stick off in the breach, and it would unload the entire magazine automatically with one pull of the trigger. That was pretty trivial.

all2 8y ago

It is an excellent idea. An armed populous is an excellent deterrent of tyranny. And with the way the US is headed, an armed populous may be the only thing that stands between freedom and absolute tyranny.

51lver 8y ago
Upvoting for historical reasons.

penagwin 8y ago

Nitpick: you can buy automatic rifles made before 1986 (might be off on the date but you get the idea). You can't go buy a brand new automatic. * you can however buy a modern rifle that's made to have its automatic mode disabled, but my understanding is that it's trivial to modify to become automatic (but it will no longer be legal)

tomschlick 8y ago
> You can't go buy a brand new automatic. Also the ones that are on the market (pre-86) go for tens of thousands of dollars to start. They are basically coveted by rich collectors who show them off at designated "machine gun shoot" days at specialty ranges. > but my understanding is that it's trivial to modify to become automatic It's not trivial. Requires decent gun-smithing skill, the ability to craft an auto sear, and some extra parts. To my knowledge no one has been confirmed to have done that and convicted of it in recent history.
- int_19h 8y ago
  It is trivial. You don't need to craft an auto sear - you can just buy one. https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/m-16-full-auto-lpk/ https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/m-16-full-auto-lpk/ The reason why it's legal is because these will only fit in a full auto receiver, which is the regulated part. But most semi-auto lower receivers can be converted to accept said full auto trigger group simply by drilling a single hole in the receiver. Which is also fairly trivial, given that you're drilling aluminum, and jigs are readily available: https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/m-16-drilling-jig/ https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/m-16-drilling-jig/ If you ever hear references to the "third hole" in gun context, or see the meme linked below, that's what it is about. https://i.imgur.com/HgPfXdl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HgPfXdl.jpg
- King-Aaron 8y ago
  > It's not trivial. I had an old 12-gauge semi that you could break a match stick off in the breach, and it would unload the entire magazine automatically with one pull of the trigger. That was pretty trivial.