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There are no “export laws” requiring encryption of satellite transmission data. Export laws wouldn’t apply anyway. As a constructive counter example, there are

There are no “export laws” requiring encryption of satellite transmission data. Export laws wouldn’t apply anyway. As a constructive counter example, there are plenty of free services you can tune into.

tzakrajs 8y ago
Of intelligence data there is. Read up on ITAR and EAR. So you don’t think that the satellites AWS will interface with will be facing earth with sensors?
- garmaine 8y ago
  I’ve worked in an ITAR industry. This topic isn’t about intelligence data :)
  - cbanek 8y ago
    Agree, I also worked under ITAR restrictions in the launch industry.
- Rebelgecko 8y ago
  ITAR is pretty limited in what it considers intelligence/military. Unless you're looking for missile launches or doing remote sensing with technologies that are better than what's available to the general public, it probably won't apply. There's plenty of interesting things you can do without running afoul of ITAR/USML definitions. Some telemetry and sensor data may be EAR99, which is as far as export restrictions go is about as nonrestrictive as it gets. For example iTunes is EAR99— that's why the EULA says you're not allowed to use it to develop nuclear or biological weapons.
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batbomb 8y ago
NASA telescopes used to be governed by ITAR. They've relaxed those a lot, but you had to use software to transmit the data encrypted all the way to your science pipelines (e.g. Telescope to White Sands to Goddard to $INSTITUTION)
- garmaine 8y ago
  That’s because they’re telescopes. NASA’s telescopes are basically spy satellites pointed outwards.
  - batbomb 8y ago
    it's also true for the xray/gamma ray/etc... observatories
  - andyjohnson0 8y ago
    > NASA’s telescopes are basically spy satellites pointed outwards. Literally in at least one case. The NRA donated two surveillance satellites to NASA back in 2012 [1] and the plan is to fly one of them as the WFIRST telescope [2]. I don't think there is a launch date yet. [1] https://www.space.com/16000-spy-satellites-space-telescopes-nasa.html https://www.space.com/16000-spy-satellites-space-telescopes-... [2] https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/02/18/nasa-moves-forward-with-mission-using-spy-satellite-telescope/ https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/02/18/nasa-moves-forward-wit...
    - andyjohnson0 8y ago
      > The NRA NRO damnit

tzakrajs 8y ago

Of intelligence data there is. Read up on ITAR and EAR. So you don’t think that the satellites AWS will interface with will be facing earth with sensors?

garmaine 8y ago
I’ve worked in an ITAR industry. This topic isn’t about intelligence data :)
- cbanek 8y ago
  Agree, I also worked under ITAR restrictions in the launch industry.
Rebelgecko 8y ago
ITAR is pretty limited in what it considers intelligence/military. Unless you're looking for missile launches or doing remote sensing with technologies that are better than what's available to the general public, it probably won't apply. There's plenty of interesting things you can do without running afoul of ITAR/USML definitions. Some telemetry and sensor data may be EAR99, which is as far as export restrictions go is about as nonrestrictive as it gets. For example iTunes is EAR99— that's why the EULA says you're not allowed to use it to develop nuclear or biological weapons.
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batbomb 8y ago

NASA telescopes used to be governed by ITAR. They've relaxed those a lot, but you had to use software to transmit the data encrypted all the way to your science pipelines (e.g. Telescope to White Sands to Goddard to $INSTITUTION)

garmaine 8y ago
That’s because they’re telescopes. NASA’s telescopes are basically spy satellites pointed outwards.
- batbomb 8y ago
  it's also true for the xray/gamma ray/etc... observatories
- andyjohnson0 8y ago
  > NASA’s telescopes are basically spy satellites pointed outwards. Literally in at least one case. The NRA donated two surveillance satellites to NASA back in 2012 [1] and the plan is to fly one of them as the WFIRST telescope [2]. I don't think there is a launch date yet. [1] https://www.space.com/16000-spy-satellites-space-telescopes-nasa.html https://www.space.com/16000-spy-satellites-space-telescopes-... [2] https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/02/18/nasa-moves-forward-with-mission-using-spy-satellite-telescope/ https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/02/18/nasa-moves-forward-wit...
  - andyjohnson0 8y ago
    > The NRA NRO damnit