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Nobody is "focused on separating families" and if you think so you've just fallen victim to divisive propaganda. I'm not sure why you scare quote free speech a

Nobody is "focused on separating families" and if you think so you've just fallen victim to divisive propaganda. I'm not sure why you scare quote free speech and then use an example of free speech to somehow disprove free speech. Free speech isn't supposed to be just for propagating popular ideas, that's the entire point FFS. >And I guess with 'human rights' that goes along with the USA's tendency to start senseless[9] wars[10] over oil Ugh, what a boring and incorrect trope. The wars are not about oil, oil companies aren't the ones making money off of them. Show us all of the successful US oil companies in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. Additionally, the US produces enough domestic oil that it makes no sense to go after conflict oil even if that was a thing. Finally, your whole post smacks of whataboutism. Pointing out shortcomings does not mean the US isn't leaps and bounds ahead of China/Russia/etc in human rights. Try running a newspaper truly critical of the government in China or Russia and then you'll see why 'free speech' matters.

learc83 8y ago
>Nobody is "focused on separating families" and if you think so you've just fallen victim to divisive propaganda. It's pretty clear that Stephen Miller has been pushing specifically for family separation. He appears to be fairly "focused" on the issue as a strategy in his goal of limiting immigration (legal and illegal) in general.
omegaworks 8y ago
>Additionally, the US produces enough domestic oil that it makes no sense to go after conflict oil even if that was a thing. This was a post-Bush II, Hillary Clinton-driven innovation[1]. She helped popularize the practice of hydraulic fracturing (fracking) that has unlocked previously inaccessible domestic oil supplies. Before then, oil prices were virtually dictated by OPEC. Bush II's foreign policy was informed by this fact, and the ongoing war in Iraq he started opened their resources up to western multinational oil corporations[2]. Under Saddam, the oil in Iraq was extracted by a company that had been nationalized in 1961[3]. 1. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron/1171/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton... 2. http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/list-of-international-oil-companies-in-iraq/ http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/list-of-international-oil-c... 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iraq#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iraq#His...

learc83 8y ago

>Nobody is "focused on separating families" and if you think so you've just fallen victim to divisive propaganda. It's pretty clear that Stephen Miller has been pushing specifically for family separation. He appears to be fairly "focused" on the issue as a strategy in his goal of limiting immigration (legal and illegal) in general.

omegaworks 8y ago

>Additionally, the US produces enough domestic oil that it makes no sense to go after conflict oil even if that was a thing. This was a post-Bush II, Hillary Clinton-driven innovation[1]. She helped popularize the practice of hydraulic fracturing (fracking) that has unlocked previously inaccessible domestic oil supplies. Before then, oil prices were virtually dictated by OPEC. Bush II's foreign policy was informed by this fact, and the ongoing war in Iraq he started opened their resources up to western multinational oil corporations[2]. Under Saddam, the oil in Iraq was extracted by a company that had been nationalized in 1961[3]. 1. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron/1171/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton... 2. http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/list-of-international-oil-companies-in-iraq/ http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/list-of-international-oil-c... 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iraq#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iraq#His...