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> The use of herbicides and pesticides is completely unregulated. Every bag of the stuff says, "It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manne

> The use of herbicides and pesticides is completely unregulated. Every bag of the stuff says, "It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling." Sounds like regulation to me. You don't have to ask permission to put it on your lawn, but you've got plenty of rope to hang yourself with a warning label like that. > I had a small native plant yard that attracted hundreds of pollinators and arachnids. I was treated like and criminal forced to cut most of it down. This is a shame. Native yards much more beneficial than monospecies turf everywhere.

Swizec 8y ago
But are those regulations enforced is the wuestion. Without oversight and enforcement, the regulation doesn’t exist. What does a lawn need herbicides for anyway? You’re not trying to macimize yield ... Another question is what does that label say. Is it “Don’t spray in eyes” or something like “Don’t use more than X per square foot” or even something cool like “Only for agricultural use where actual crops are grown”
- clarkmoody 8y ago
  It has all sorts of specific instructions about how much to spread, how soon before/after rain, how close to waterways & drains, sweep up any that gets on sidewalks, etc. Tons of words. Also in Spanish.
  - hinkley 8y ago
    There’s more than one definition of regulation. One being “the act of controlling or supervising”. If you define regulation as the act of making rules? Then yeah there’s not much to talk about. But if we’re talking about controlling, throttling, or supervising, we aren’t seeing much of that.
  - Retra 8y ago
    Having some words written somewhere is hardly regulating anything. Regulation requires control.
gmoes 8y ago
> Every bag of the stuff says, "It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling." Sounds like regulation to me. You don't have to ask permission to put it on your lawn, but you've got plenty of rope to hang yourself with a warning label like that. I meant in terms of application. I did try to find ordinances on this at the state and municipal level. They may exist, but even so is there any oversight?

Swizec 8y ago

But are those regulations enforced is the wuestion. Without oversight and enforcement, the regulation doesn’t exist. What does a lawn need herbicides for anyway? You’re not trying to macimize yield ... Another question is what does that label say. Is it “Don’t spray in eyes” or something like “Don’t use more than X per square foot” or even something cool like “Only for agricultural use where actual crops are grown”

clarkmoody 8y ago
It has all sorts of specific instructions about how much to spread, how soon before/after rain, how close to waterways & drains, sweep up any that gets on sidewalks, etc. Tons of words. Also in Spanish.
- hinkley 8y ago
  There’s more than one definition of regulation. One being “the act of controlling or supervising”. If you define regulation as the act of making rules? Then yeah there’s not much to talk about. But if we’re talking about controlling, throttling, or supervising, we aren’t seeing much of that.
- Retra 8y ago
  Having some words written somewhere is hardly regulating anything. Regulation requires control.

gmoes 8y ago

> Every bag of the stuff says, "It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling." Sounds like regulation to me. You don't have to ask permission to put it on your lawn, but you've got plenty of rope to hang yourself with a warning label like that. I meant in terms of application. I did try to find ordinances on this at the state and municipal level. They may exist, but even so is there any oversight?