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Judging by Google /FB modus operandi I doubt it, they'll collect all. Googlers that really know would probably not tell. Looks like EU might put the brakes on

Judging by Google /FB modus operandi I doubt it, they'll collect all. Googlers that really know would probably not tell. Looks like EU might put the brakes on a lot of this creepy crap. As much 4% of revenue or close to $5 billion fine....$5 billion for this, $4b for another...and all of the sudden we're talking real money.

tcd 8y ago
No, they won't. They've already fined Google billions, but have they got the money? Not a chance. Any fine will be fought for at least a decade (see Oracle v Google) and will end up in limbo forever. They could fine Google $1 trillion, wouldn't make a difference.
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  Even if appeal it 500 times and lose, Google will have to pay, along with interest.
  - thrower123 8y ago
    If the cost-benefit analysis comes out that far in the red, Google could just bail, and what would the EU regulatory agencies do? Seizing a few office complexes and a data center or two isn't going to amount to much in the way of actual value. It's not like Google is an old-time capital-intensive manufacturing or resource-extraction company.
    - notfromhere 8y ago
      Google is going to lock itself out of a quarter of the globe's GDP?
      - skj 8y ago
        If the other option costs $1T? It's a bit of a hypothetical since that won't be the only other option, but that was the thought experiment.
      - kkarakk 8y ago
        remember when google left china, the good old days of don't be evil
mda 8y ago
Any proof of your claims? By law, If they say they do not, they do not.
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  >>Any proof of your claims? Google, FB, LinkedIn etc engage in super creepy procedures and suck as much data as they can. Some to be used today and directly, other data to be used indirectly...or just to be there just in case. Plus, if you read it again, it's clear I was saying what I believe it to be likely. >>By law, If they say they do not, they do not. Ummm, no. Justice system isn't based on what the accused says. That's only part of it, called (more or less) the defense. Others chime in too
  - mda 8y ago
    So zero proof just hand waving.
- ionised 8y ago
  because Google has never lied?
  - mda 8y ago
    Examples?
    - niutech 8y ago
      > Google misled the public about the size of the company’s contract to develop AI for the Pentagon, and its executives chose against publicizing its participation in the project, leaked emails obtained by The Intercept show.

tcd 8y ago

No, they won't. They've already fined Google billions, but have they got the money? Not a chance. Any fine will be fought for at least a decade (see Oracle v Google) and will end up in limbo forever. They could fine Google $1 trillion, wouldn't make a difference.

onetimemanytime 8y ago
Even if appeal it 500 times and lose, Google will have to pay, along with interest.
- thrower123 8y ago
  If the cost-benefit analysis comes out that far in the red, Google could just bail, and what would the EU regulatory agencies do? Seizing a few office complexes and a data center or two isn't going to amount to much in the way of actual value. It's not like Google is an old-time capital-intensive manufacturing or resource-extraction company.
  - notfromhere 8y ago
    Google is going to lock itself out of a quarter of the globe's GDP?
    - skj 8y ago
      If the other option costs $1T? It's a bit of a hypothetical since that won't be the only other option, but that was the thought experiment.
    - kkarakk 8y ago
      remember when google left china, the good old days of don't be evil

mda 8y ago

Any proof of your claims? By law, If they say they do not, they do not.

onetimemanytime 8y ago
>>Any proof of your claims? Google, FB, LinkedIn etc engage in super creepy procedures and suck as much data as they can. Some to be used today and directly, other data to be used indirectly...or just to be there just in case. Plus, if you read it again, it's clear I was saying what I believe it to be likely. >>By law, If they say they do not, they do not. Ummm, no. Justice system isn't based on what the accused says. That's only part of it, called (more or less) the defense. Others chime in too
- mda 8y ago
  So zero proof just hand waving.
ionised 8y ago
because Google has never lied?
- mda 8y ago
  Examples?
  - niutech 8y ago
    > Google misled the public about the size of the company’s contract to develop AI for the Pentagon, and its executives chose against publicizing its participation in the project, leaked emails obtained by The Intercept show.