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People just love to find things to complain about. There are a number of great options: 1)Get a different phone or keep your old phone. Noone's forcing you to

People just love to find things to complain about. There are a number of great options: 1)Get a different phone or keep your old phone. Noone's forcing you to use one without a headphone jack. You could even use an older iPhone if innovation frightens you in general and you're happy with your old setup 2)Get/use an adapter. THey're not expensive and sometimes come with the phone 3)Get/use headphones with the new style of plug. You could probably use some new headphones as they get pretty janky over time 4)Use wireless. In lots of ways it's objectively better. Yeah you may need to get used to a new thing, but being good at adapting to change is an important muscle to exercise. Honestly every time there's innovation there are all kinds of complaints, especially on here. "Why do I have to change to USB-C? I'm fine with my old peripherals" (well your old computer still works with your old peripherals and if you want to use a new computer there are adapters). "Why do I have to change to wireless headphones?" (you don't. Your old phone still works with old headphone jacks and there are adapters) The idea that older people are completely unable to handle plugging a headphone adapter in but are somehow able to plug a headphone jack in is just bizarre. You can just pretend that the adapter is part of the cable with the headphones and always keep them together.

einr 8y ago
You could even use an older iPhone if innovation frightens you in general Putting aside your unnecessarily snarky tone, it is not innovation to remove something from a phone. It's just not. Get/use headphones with the new style of plug. What, with the proprietary Lightning connector that works with nothing else but an iPad or iPhone? (Not even a Mac! Oh, but there's another dongle for that...) What if I also have an Android USB-C device that needs another connector, and then since I'm interested in music I also have amps or other portable players that take the standard 3,5 mm plug? I now need buy three pairs of headphones instead of one that works with everything from the past forty years? Is this innovation or is it just marketing garbage to sell people more shit they don't need that will end up in landfills in three years? In lots of ways it's objectively better. In lots of ways it's objectively worse. Bluetooth audio is compressed and objectively worse than uncompressed audio over an analog cable. Wireless headphones require batteries, which means less flexibility and more mental overhead. The batteries age and are generally not easily replacable, which contributes to waste. We don't need to make more disposable electronics with lithium batteries that end up in landfills. Bluetooth introduces latency which makes it entirely unsuitable for musicians. Also, Bluetooth in 2018 is still janky as hell (susceptible to interference, forgets pairings, etc.) and not nearly as reliable as just plugging a cable into a thing and having it work always and forever. It also drains a non-trivial amount of battery. I usually have Bluetooth switched off because I never use it, and enjoy better battery life as a result.
piyush_soni 8y ago
>> Use wireless. In lots of ways it's objectively better In a lot of ways it isn't. First, as everyone pointed out, there are connectivity issues everywhere, and even when you are able to connect, the audio quality is inferior to what comes through the headphone jack. People have already talked about problems with the other options you listed.
daemin 8y ago
1) There are many reasons to get a new phone, the biggest one is battery life, after a few years your phone will not last as long as when you bought it. Also a smaller reason are security updates, since they are quite needed due to the increased processing power available. This also depends on where the market goes, because pretty much all phone manufacturers follow Apple's lead to some extent. Removing the headphone jack, the notch and curved screen corners, and the non-replaceable battery are all features that Apple popularised. So it may not be possible to get a phone without these features any more in the future.
mackrevinack 8y ago
1) so the solution is to have a second phone that you have to charge and update and install apps on and keep them updated and then just bring around with your main phone? and also probably have to bring two charging cables as well, 1 usb-c and 1 micro-usb for your old phone. can you honestly see everybody doing this? 2) that only makes sense if you have 1 pair of headphones. if you have say headphones and earbuds then you either have to buy two dongles or else remember to swap it, which you will eventually forget at some point. if you want to listen to music in your car reliably then you will need to buy one for there as well 4) ive been using bluetooth in my car since its been available and its better in some ways and worse in others. a few android updates in the past have caused problems and i couldnt connect for months until the next update was released. currently my phone connects ok to my car stereo the first time, but if i stop the car and start it again there is nearly always connection issues and i have to turn bt on/off to get it working again and try various other things. if this what you mean by adapting to change? yea im definitely getting good at fixing it at this stage but its a bit much to expect others to go through the learning process just pretending the adapter is part of the cable doesnt help much when you want to charge your phone and the port is being used by your headphones you mentioned "great" options? you clearly havnt put too much thought into this but you got to complain about people complaining which is probably the main reason for your comment. ps. as others have stated, taking away useful features is not innovation

einr 8y ago

You could even use an older iPhone if innovation frightens you in general Putting aside your unnecessarily snarky tone, it is not innovation to remove something from a phone. It's just not. Get/use headphones with the new style of plug. What, with the proprietary Lightning connector that works with nothing else but an iPad or iPhone? (Not even a Mac! Oh, but there's another dongle for that...) What if I also have an Android USB-C device that needs another connector, and then since I'm interested in music I also have amps or other portable players that take the standard 3,5 mm plug? I now need buy three pairs of headphones instead of one that works with everything from the past forty years? Is this innovation or is it just marketing garbage to sell people more shit they don't need that will end up in landfills in three years? In lots of ways it's objectively better. In lots of ways it's objectively worse. Bluetooth audio is compressed and objectively worse than uncompressed audio over an analog cable. Wireless headphones require batteries, which means less flexibility and more mental overhead. The batteries age and are generally not easily replacable, which contributes to waste. We don't need to make more disposable electronics with lithium batteries that end up in landfills. Bluetooth introduces latency which makes it entirely unsuitable for musicians. Also, Bluetooth in 2018 is still janky as hell (susceptible to interference, forgets pairings, etc.) and not nearly as reliable as just plugging a cable into a thing and having it work always and forever. It also drains a non-trivial amount of battery. I usually have Bluetooth switched off because I never use it, and enjoy better battery life as a result.

piyush_soni 8y ago

>> Use wireless. In lots of ways it's objectively better In a lot of ways it isn't. First, as everyone pointed out, there are connectivity issues everywhere, and even when you are able to connect, the audio quality is inferior to what comes through the headphone jack. People have already talked about problems with the other options you listed.

daemin 8y ago

1) There are many reasons to get a new phone, the biggest one is battery life, after a few years your phone will not last as long as when you bought it. Also a smaller reason are security updates, since they are quite needed due to the increased processing power available. This also depends on where the market goes, because pretty much all phone manufacturers follow Apple's lead to some extent. Removing the headphone jack, the notch and curved screen corners, and the non-replaceable battery are all features that Apple popularised. So it may not be possible to get a phone without these features any more in the future.

mackrevinack 8y ago

1) so the solution is to have a second phone that you have to charge and update and install apps on and keep them updated and then just bring around with your main phone? and also probably have to bring two charging cables as well, 1 usb-c and 1 micro-usb for your old phone. can you honestly see everybody doing this? 2) that only makes sense if you have 1 pair of headphones. if you have say headphones and earbuds then you either have to buy two dongles or else remember to swap it, which you will eventually forget at some point. if you want to listen to music in your car reliably then you will need to buy one for there as well 4) ive been using bluetooth in my car since its been available and its better in some ways and worse in others. a few android updates in the past have caused problems and i couldnt connect for months until the next update was released. currently my phone connects ok to my car stereo the first time, but if i stop the car and start it again there is nearly always connection issues and i have to turn bt on/off to get it working again and try various other things. if this what you mean by adapting to change? yea im definitely getting good at fixing it at this stage but its a bit much to expect others to go through the learning process just pretending the adapter is part of the cable doesnt help much when you want to charge your phone and the port is being used by your headphones you mentioned "great" options? you clearly havnt put too much thought into this but you got to complain about people complaining which is probably the main reason for your comment. ps. as others have stated, taking away useful features is not innovation