> Again, you are effectively arguing that it would be ethical for a doctor to try to experimentally create a glow-in-the-dark baby if asked to by the mother. N

> Again, you are effectively arguing that it would be ethical for a doctor to try to experimentally create a glow-in-the-dark baby if asked to by the mother. No, I am not arguing that. That's an embarrassingly absurd conclusion to draw. These babies have a risk of life-long HIV impairment. This intervention may prevent this. With any medical intervention, you need to trade off risk and reward. Obviously, for an unborn child, there can not be any consent here. It would be unethical to not give the babies the treatment if there wasn't any risk associated. What makes it unethical is that the risk profile isn't even known. The scientific foundation is poor. > Anyway, this discussion doesn't seem to be going anywhere productive, so I will bid you good day. I agree and let me say this: You're by far the worst discussion partner I have ever had on HN.