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Apple has said barely anything about A4. All the 'misleading' and 'deception' you mention comes from people speculating about what A4 is and isn't.

by YooLi 16y ago

ZeroGravitas 16y ago
Apple feature the A4 regularly in keynotes, product introduction videos and websites. They used Samsung ARM chips in every previous iPhone and were happy to leave it at that. Since the iPad they have been presenting the A4 as "custom-designed by Apple engineers to be extremely powerful yet extremely power efficient." This could be considered flat out lies, at the very least it gives the wrong impression. If you want to be charitable then they could mean "engineers employed by a company later bought by Apple" when they say Apple engineers, custom-designed could mean simply "designed to achieve certain goals" rather than "specifically for Apple" or it could just mean that someone at Apple picked certain features from a Samsung catalog. With that background it is understandable (though still faintly ridiculous) for people to take the hints that Apple is dropping and go off on flights of fancy about the A4.
- YooLi 16y ago
  You are reaching, though not sure why. "...custom-designed by Apple engineers to be extremely powerful yet extremely power efficient." is 100% valid. Picking certain features from a Samsung catalog is what the general consensus is they did, and that doesn't contradict their statement at all. I can get on a website right now and make a custom designed t-shirt or even a custom designed candy bar by picking the ingredients I want. If I tell someone I then made a custom-designed candy bar, will they call me a liar because I didn't make the chocolate and all the ingredients from scratch or because someone else cooked them and put them together to make the candy bar? Of course not. Apple engineers picked the features of the SoC they wanted, ones they felt would give them the best efficiency for how they were using them, and that is their A4. No more, no less, and exactly what they say it is. Featuring the A4 doesn't mean they are giving any details about it. No one is telling 'flat out lies'.

Apple has said barely anything about A4. All the 'misleading' and 'deception' you mention comes from people speculating about what A4 is and isn't.

by YooLi 16y ago

Apple has said barely anything about A4. All the 'misleading' and 'deception' you mention comes from people speculating about what A4 is and isn't.

ZeroGravitas 16y ago

Apple feature the A4 regularly in keynotes, product introduction videos and websites. They used Samsung ARM chips in every previous iPhone and were happy to leave it at that. Since the iPad they have been presenting the A4 as "custom-designed by Apple engineers to be extremely powerful yet extremely power efficient." This could be considered flat out lies, at the very least it gives the wrong impression. If you want to be charitable then they could mean "engineers employed by a company later bought by Apple" when they say Apple engineers, custom-designed could mean simply "designed to achieve certain goals" rather than "specifically for Apple" or it could just mean that someone at Apple picked certain features from a Samsung catalog. With that background it is understandable (though still faintly ridiculous) for people to take the hints that Apple is dropping and go off on flights of fancy about the A4.

YooLi 16y ago
You are reaching, though not sure why. "...custom-designed by Apple engineers to be extremely powerful yet extremely power efficient." is 100% valid. Picking certain features from a Samsung catalog is what the general consensus is they did, and that doesn't contradict their statement at all. I can get on a website right now and make a custom designed t-shirt or even a custom designed candy bar by picking the ingredients I want. If I tell someone I then made a custom-designed candy bar, will they call me a liar because I didn't make the chocolate and all the ingredients from scratch or because someone else cooked them and put them together to make the candy bar? Of course not. Apple engineers picked the features of the SoC they wanted, ones they felt would give them the best efficiency for how they were using them, and that is their A4. No more, no less, and exactly what they say it is. Featuring the A4 doesn't mean they are giving any details about it. No one is telling 'flat out lies'.