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AirPods require neither of these things. The case is always charging them. You want to use your beyerdynamics? Fine. Your phone came with an adapter for them.
by Bud 8y ago
AirPods require neither of these things. The case is always charging them. You want to use your beyerdynamics? Fine. Your phone came with an adapter for them.
- S_A_P 8y agoIts not that I "want" to use them. The difference is that I could use the same headphones to record drums, drum machines, guitar, Vox, or even my iPhone. Bluetooth is great! I use it in my car for phone and audio all the time. Wireless headphones are at a fundamental disadvantage in that they have less battery capacity than a phone. Those AirPod thingys you like? great. They don't fit my weird ears. My problem. but ear buds and I don't mix. Sorry, wireless and small are at odds with each other.
- eksemplar 8y agoWhy don’t you just plug your old headphones into the adapter and continue to use them?
- PhasmaFelis 8y agoBecause it's a pain in the ass to have to carry around another fiddly bit of tech gear which should have been completely unnecessary. Yeah, it's petty. But literally no one benefits from the absence of jack (or at least no user), so why inflict even a petty annoyance on some users with nothing gained for it?
- eksemplar 8y agoCould they have build the iPhone XS with a jack? Because if they couldn’t, I’d argue that everyone who owns one benefits from it not having a jack. The real annoyance for me isn’t the lack of the jack, it’s that they haven’t also replaced the jack on the MacBook line yet.
- city41 8y agoWhy couldn’t they build it with a jack? Due to the thickness? I’m typing this out on my iPhone 6 (which I will keep until it disintegrates because of its headphone jack) and it is plenty thin. I think only Apple themselves are obsessed with thin devices.
- jakeogh 8y agoHeh. No. It's about DRM. Incrementalisim is powerful. They just pretend it's not.
- Cogito 8y agoThinness and waterproofing are the two things I've heard that lead to removing the jack. Neither seems insurmountable, but if you want to try and remove as many obstacles as possible in the search of those two things then the headphone jack is apparently one of the simpler ones. Speakers, camera lens, physical buttons, charging, and data transfer are the remaining ones I can think of, and many of those have already been replaced in some models.
- yellowapple 8y agoSamsung's been shipping waterproof (or at least water-resistant) headphone-jacked phones for years now.
- Cogito 8y agoExactly, I think there are solutions for more or less everything I listed, or solutions could be found if necessary. I think the headphone jack is a very practical component of the phone, and miss it regularly, but removing it does remove a few limitations on the designer. At some point, in perhaps the not too distant future, I wouldn't be surprised if phones had been reduced down to look like not much more than a piece of glass. Maybe even a piece of flexible glass! That's definitely been the trend for a while now, and things like edge to edge screens and wireless charging move us further in that direction. Thankfully neither of those seem to have necessitated the removal of some other function. There have been other casualties other on this path to simplification, such as the removal of the physical home button, but I don't think any which leave as big a gap as the headphone jack.
- astrostl 8y agoI don’t use wired headphones, but I imagine that I would just leave the adapter on them 24/7?
- wl 8y agoI'd rather keep the 1/8" to 1/4" adapter on it. Lightning or USB C means now I have two adapters to carry around.
- PhasmaFelis 8y agoIt shouldn't be required either way, but I've occasionally zip-tied two adapters together so I can swap between them quickly.
- skgoa 8y agoCorrect. It really isn't a big deal.
- Zach_the_Lizard 8y agoUntil you want to charge and listen to music at the same time, which I wanted to do on a flight recently. I had to charge up to what I thought was enough and then put the headphones in. Annoying. My wife also brought Lightning headphones, which didn't work with anything except her phone, leading to her using the cheap airline ear buds for the in flight entertainment system.
- Mtinie 8y agoAlternatively you can pick up a dual-port adapter and charge while you listen: For example, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E5AHZYA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E5AHZYA
- konart 8y ago>but I imagine that I would just leave the adapter on them 24/7? Except people often use same headphone with both - phone and pc, so you will have to remove the adapter anyway.
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- AmericanChopper 8y ago>Wireless headphones are at a fundamental disadvantage in that they have less battery capacity than a phone. I’ve been using a pair of beats for over a year now, and have never run out of batteries with them, even on multi-leg long haul flights. I use them constantly, and almost exclusively charge them when I have to go to a meeting, which doesn’t usually happen more than once a day. I used AirPods before then and their battery life was even better.
- ddingus 8y agoWhat charges the case? No need for a phone that requires an adapter. There are great phones that drive all audio gear nicely. Those phones will win in the market too. Cost / benefit ratio is more favorable. Has been, will continue to be, and that will be true because digital audio does nothing new. Video does! We have great reasons for DV. Those do not apply to audio. Ears are not like eyes.
- jamesrcole 8y ago> No need for a phone that requires an adapter. There are great phones that drive all audio gear nicely. Those phones will win in the market too. Why do you say they'll win?
- yellowapple 8y agoThey won for me at least, given that I'm typing this on a phone with a headphone jack (a OnePlus 5T).
- jamesrcole 8y agoIt should go without saying that a fact about a single person's purchase says nothing about what phone characteristics will win out in the market.
- ddingus 8y agoWhat overwhelming Advantage does digital-only audio deliver to the market that's worth the cost of transition to digital only audio? With video, there's a lot of those. And today in the market we have a mix of analog and digital, mostly digital, and it mostly makes sense. That isn't really true of audio. And it's not true because audio works very differently.
- jamesrcole 8y agoWhy are you asking me? What about my comment, or its grand-parent comment makes you ask me that?
- asdff 8y agoThe battery degrades pretty badly in a year.
- mario0b1 8y ago> Fine. Your phone came with an adapter for them. No, no, no. Can we please get rid of this adapter hell? It's awful and just way too much overhead. In every situation. No matter if phone or laptop
- djur 8y agoThe new iPhones do not come with a headphone adapter anymore.
- visarga 8y agoI have had mixed results with AirPods on a 2015 MacBook Pro. The earbuds themselves are great, the case is great, but they just don't know how to bluetooth with the laptop of the same company. Every time I put them on, the hunt for a BT connection starts. Sometimes I have to reboot my computer to make them work. It's such a shame that a behemoth like Apple can't make BT work between two of their products. In fact, it's deplorable. How could they ship such a shitty wireless thing?
- philjohn 8y agoTry resetting the bluetooth card in your mac, I was having problems with mine taking several attempts to sync (and my magic mouse point blank refusing). Shift-option then click on the bluetooth icon, debug, reset bluetooth card.
- visarga 8y agoI know every trick because I researched many times, but they don't work. Most of the times the bluetooth just disconnects on its own right after connecting, or hangs during 'connecting'. Such a pity that these famous earbuds fail at their basic function - of producing sound.
- philjohn 8y agoCould be you just have a duff pair and need them replaced. Apart from this one issue with the mac (which I've now fixed) they've been flawless.
- arvinsim 8y ago> Your phone came with an adapter for them. Not anymore https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17827970/no-more-free-iphone-dongles https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17827970/no-more-free-iph...
- mti27 8y agoRemoving this dongle is Apple's next "act of courage" :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fvQpyuK78 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fvQpyuK78
- Yetanfou 8y ago"AirPods" also cost about the same as one of my phones (a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 running LineageOS [1]) which comes with a 3.5" jack. With one fell swoop I get a phone which does not phone home (other than through the radio firmware blob of course), which runs for a week on a single charge and connects to all those things with 3.5" jacks which I happen upon, be it headphones or cassette adapters or older car radios without bluetooth. To paraphrase some marketing slogans from the days of yore: IBM said "Think" [2] Apple said "Think different" [3] I say "Think wisely" [1] https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/whyred https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/whyred [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_(IBM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_(IBM) [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different
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- saurik 8y agoI use AirPods. I even like them. ... but you do realize that the case isn't a magical source of energy, right? You have to charge that thing... and the airpods themselves last a remarkably long time, but they don't last that long, so I find myself having to do this awkward dance in the middle of meetings where I take one out and charge it while relying on the other one, and then I swap to charge that one... I have lightning earpods, but then I can't charge my phone at the same time, so at some point my phone starts running out of battery and I'd have to switch to the airpods anyway (lol). I have tried buying multiple brands of lightning splitters, and they all suck and often the phone isn't quite able to charge even though it says it is charging. I honestly don't care if I have a "headphone jack": I totally agree with Apple that it was a shitty jack. It was a fragile hole that made it impossible to waterproof the damned phone. How about they just give me two lightning ports? Or a lightning port and a USB-C port, to make my dreams finally come true of only having to carry around one (USB-C) cable while still getting to be compatible with all of the stuff Apple already sold for these devices?
- franga2000 8y ago> made it impossible to waterproof the damned phone Was that what Apple told their customers? Because it's utter bullshit. Sony, Samsung, LG, even those ultra-rugged CAT phones had headphone jacks and at least IP-68 (5m, 1h).
- saintPirelli 8y agoI love my CAT S41 because I don't have any of the issues in this thread and I expect this to stay true for another 10 years.
- forgottenpass 8y agoAs a workaround I use an inductive charger while using headphones. Not a great solution because it only works at my desk, but better than nothing.