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Unfortunately, it is important for medical personnel to know whether you are biologically male or female, which is yes, very real, and also very much grounded i

Unfortunately, it is important for medical personnel to know whether you are biologically male or female, which is yes, very real, and also very much grounded in science. There are serious implications to avoiding reality here. People could be mistreated and misdiagnosed. I'm all for trans acceptance, but the people pushing for this stuff need to also learn to accept reality.

alansmitheebk 8y ago
Amen. It's also important to be able to identify a suspected criminal at large, a missing person, or the victims of an accident. It's also necessary to properly identify people to make sure they are not committing identity theft and fraud. None of this is possible in a world where we we're either not allowed to make that distinction or the person can choose whichever they wish to be at that specific moment in time. "Calling all cars, calling all cars. Be on the lookout for a suspect --I'm not sure what sex, I mean hey, it's not that simple, and who am I to judge. Suspect has light skin but maybe suspect identifies as black like Rachel Dolezal. We just don't know, do we... So yeah, be on the lookout for a person of indeterminate sex and race who is 5' 8". Suspect is armed and dangerous. Take caution and be politically correct. We cannot afford to hurt anyone's feeling here!"
dragonwriter 8y ago
> Unfortunately, it is important for medical personnel to know whether you are biologically male or female It's important for them to know if I'm, say, sensitive to iodine (in fact, the latter is probably far more likely to be fatal quickly if they don't know in an emergency). What that has to do with legal gender, I don't know, and in any case the aspect of biological sex medical personnel are least likely to need to know is the one this proposal makes deciding as to the immutable categorization of gender—the shape of my genitals at birth. So, no, “its for your own (medical) good” is not a tenable defense of the proposal.
henrikschroder 8y ago
> whether you are biologically male or female, which is yes, very real, and also very much grounded in science. Except those aren't the only two categories, and if you want a classification that is comprehensive and grounded in science, it will get messy and complicated very, very quickly. And, again, what has this got to do with legal gender? In case of emergency there are many things medical personnel will need to know about you in order to avoid fatal mistakes, should they appear on your birth certificate? No, of course not. So why should this?

alansmitheebk 8y ago

Amen. It's also important to be able to identify a suspected criminal at large, a missing person, or the victims of an accident. It's also necessary to properly identify people to make sure they are not committing identity theft and fraud. None of this is possible in a world where we we're either not allowed to make that distinction or the person can choose whichever they wish to be at that specific moment in time. "Calling all cars, calling all cars. Be on the lookout for a suspect --I'm not sure what sex, I mean hey, it's not that simple, and who am I to judge. Suspect has light skin but maybe suspect identifies as black like Rachel Dolezal. We just don't know, do we... So yeah, be on the lookout for a person of indeterminate sex and race who is 5' 8". Suspect is armed and dangerous. Take caution and be politically correct. We cannot afford to hurt anyone's feeling here!"

dragonwriter 8y ago

> Unfortunately, it is important for medical personnel to know whether you are biologically male or female It's important for them to know if I'm, say, sensitive to iodine (in fact, the latter is probably far more likely to be fatal quickly if they don't know in an emergency). What that has to do with legal gender, I don't know, and in any case the aspect of biological sex medical personnel are least likely to need to know is the one this proposal makes deciding as to the immutable categorization of gender—the shape of my genitals at birth. So, no, “its for your own (medical) good” is not a tenable defense of the proposal.

henrikschroder 8y ago

> whether you are biologically male or female, which is yes, very real, and also very much grounded in science. Except those aren't the only two categories, and if you want a classification that is comprehensive and grounded in science, it will get messy and complicated very, very quickly. And, again, what has this got to do with legal gender? In case of emergency there are many things medical personnel will need to know about you in order to avoid fatal mistakes, should they appear on your birth certificate? No, of course not. So why should this?