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(I think it's hilarious I'm being downvoted for making a factual observation...) It amazes me how different startup culture, and tech culture in general, is fr

(I think it's hilarious I'm being downvoted for making a factual observation...) It amazes me how different startup culture, and tech culture in general, is from the rest of the country. ---- Every job I've ever worked at: Relocation expenses? hahahaha Equity? haha we'll wave your brokerage fee to buy as our stock purchase program but if you wanna sell, you'll be paying brokerage fees. Responsibilities? You'll do what we tell you, when we tell you, and you'll live with it. If you don't like it, you're fired. You are disposable, we do not need you, we can replace you in a matter of days with someone that'll happily shut up, sit down, and do as they're told. --- Then of course things like bonuses. I've never had a bonus at any job I've worked at in 17 years of W2 employment. Not once. In fact, I've never even had an annual cost of living increase just a 'merit based increase' at some jobs which is almost always less than inflation.

kodisha 8y ago
I guess you worked at more mature companies / corporate settings. Or EU. I'm from EU, and worked for NA companies, and got most of that covered.
wjossey 8y ago
I think the dividing line here has nothing to do with tech or startups, and merely jobs where the employee supply is short of the employer demand. Or, higher quality workers generating multiples more revenue. It’s true that if you’re not in a role where you have the ability to massively swing revenue for a business, you’re not going to receive the same offers. However, there are tons of opportunities out there beyond tech, people just need to want to go after them. All that being said, situations are way different for traditional blue collar jobs and I get that. I wish my mom, who does not have a college degree, had the same negotiating power that I do, but she doesn’t. So, I help her out as best I can (she’ll probably live off and on with me for the rest of her life- 20 to 30 years). Life across the globe comes with spectrums of challenges. While not comparable to lack of potable water, knowing the right questions to ask in a startup interview is still a challenge none the less.
tudelo 8y ago
Hmmm, I think relocation expenses are pretty standard, but not as high as they may need to be if you need to break a lease or something like that.
- hycaria 8y ago
  Any idea of the average (for the personal part of it) ? For a EU to US move ? With like 5 years of experience ?
  - quaunaut 8y ago
    It's worth noting that relocation expenses don't change too much depending on experience. They generally average around $10,000 from my experience, but it isn't paid out in advance, but usually as a reimbursement. Some companies will give you a card to do it on as a means of not having to be reimbursed, but even that's rare.
    - hycaria 8y ago
      Thanks for the info.
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JJMcJ 8y ago
> Relocation expenses A large company with a senior level hire will have amazing relocation benefits. Friend had one at director level, everything was taken care of. At worker bee level, you're right, you might get two nights at a motel if you're lucky.
balls187 8y ago
It just comes to supply and demand, and being competitive in the market. Companies looking to recruit and retain specific talent got creative with compensation packages in attempt to keep wages close to market. I first heard of this during the dot-com boom in the 90's. Companies were paying "huge" signing bonuses. Sadly I graduated after the burst, but after 9/11, and went into the defense industry. No signing bonuses, but did have a good relocation package.

kodisha 8y ago

I guess you worked at more mature companies / corporate settings. Or EU. I'm from EU, and worked for NA companies, and got most of that covered.

wjossey 8y ago

I think the dividing line here has nothing to do with tech or startups, and merely jobs where the employee supply is short of the employer demand. Or, higher quality workers generating multiples more revenue. It’s true that if you’re not in a role where you have the ability to massively swing revenue for a business, you’re not going to receive the same offers. However, there are tons of opportunities out there beyond tech, people just need to want to go after them. All that being said, situations are way different for traditional blue collar jobs and I get that. I wish my mom, who does not have a college degree, had the same negotiating power that I do, but she doesn’t. So, I help her out as best I can (she’ll probably live off and on with me for the rest of her life- 20 to 30 years). Life across the globe comes with spectrums of challenges. While not comparable to lack of potable water, knowing the right questions to ask in a startup interview is still a challenge none the less.

tudelo 8y ago

Hmmm, I think relocation expenses are pretty standard, but not as high as they may need to be if you need to break a lease or something like that.

hycaria 8y ago
Any idea of the average (for the personal part of it) ? For a EU to US move ? With like 5 years of experience ?
- quaunaut 8y ago
  It's worth noting that relocation expenses don't change too much depending on experience. They generally average around $10,000 from my experience, but it isn't paid out in advance, but usually as a reimbursement. Some companies will give you a card to do it on as a means of not having to be reimbursed, but even that's rare.
  - hycaria 8y ago
    Thanks for the info.
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JJMcJ 8y ago

> Relocation expenses A large company with a senior level hire will have amazing relocation benefits. Friend had one at director level, everything was taken care of. At worker bee level, you're right, you might get two nights at a motel if you're lucky.

balls187 8y ago

It just comes to supply and demand, and being competitive in the market. Companies looking to recruit and retain specific talent got creative with compensation packages in attempt to keep wages close to market. I first heard of this during the dot-com boom in the 90's. Companies were paying "huge" signing bonuses. Sadly I graduated after the burst, but after 9/11, and went into the defense industry. No signing bonuses, but did have a good relocation package.