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Agreed. You have a right to self-defense. But I've met people out here who do not believe in self-defense. Somehow in their theoretical mind they believe any f

Agreed. You have a right to self-defense. But I've met people out here who do not believe in self-defense. Somehow in their theoretical mind they believe any form of violence is evil. They also believe people who believe in self defense are evil too. The lunacy has no end. But my stay here sadly might...

KozmoNau7 8y ago
Right to self-defense does not mean a right to use deadly force in every situation. The essence of self-defense is to use only the necessary force to ensure your safety, by incapacitating or immobilizing the assailant, until police arrives or you can make a safe escape. It is not a license to kill.
- pageandrew 8y ago
  The right to self defense means that you have the right to use force, including deadly force, to stop a threat to your life. In a life or death situation, your last concern should be moderating your force against your assailant to stop the threat.
  - pteredactyl 8y ago
    For the bless-ed among us, they are so woke they've evolved the ability to moderate themselves in a life or death situation. Funny none of them have been in one.
  - KozmoNau7 8y ago
    Only in the case where is is a life or death situation. The vast majority of self-defense situations involve the threat of simple material loss. Just hand it over, your wallet/phone is not worth your life. If your life is threatened, you use the necessary force to stop the assailant. That may include the use of deadly force, but that threat of deadly force (brandishing a firearm) should absolutely not be the first cause of action. A lot of people seem to have worked themselves into a paranoid mindset, where every unpleasant altercation is a life or death situation. That is a very dangerous state of mind, and one that results in completely unnecessary loss of life.
    - pteredactyl 8y ago
      Exactly. That's what they teach in most self-defense. Avoid situations at all costs. Run away. Hand over the money. Even if you're carrying or know how to kill with your hands.
    - pageandrew 8y ago
      I specifically said that use of force is allowed when stopping a threat to your life. Your property is not your life. > The vast majority of self-defense situations involve the threat of simple material loss What are you citing here?

KozmoNau7 8y ago

Right to self-defense does not mean a right to use deadly force in every situation. The essence of self-defense is to use only the necessary force to ensure your safety, by incapacitating or immobilizing the assailant, until police arrives or you can make a safe escape. It is not a license to kill.

pageandrew 8y ago
The right to self defense means that you have the right to use force, including deadly force, to stop a threat to your life. In a life or death situation, your last concern should be moderating your force against your assailant to stop the threat.
- pteredactyl 8y ago
  For the bless-ed among us, they are so woke they've evolved the ability to moderate themselves in a life or death situation. Funny none of them have been in one.
- KozmoNau7 8y ago
  Only in the case where is is a life or death situation. The vast majority of self-defense situations involve the threat of simple material loss. Just hand it over, your wallet/phone is not worth your life. If your life is threatened, you use the necessary force to stop the assailant. That may include the use of deadly force, but that threat of deadly force (brandishing a firearm) should absolutely not be the first cause of action. A lot of people seem to have worked themselves into a paranoid mindset, where every unpleasant altercation is a life or death situation. That is a very dangerous state of mind, and one that results in completely unnecessary loss of life.
  - pteredactyl 8y ago
    Exactly. That's what they teach in most self-defense. Avoid situations at all costs. Run away. Hand over the money. Even if you're carrying or know how to kill with your hands.
  - pageandrew 8y ago
    I specifically said that use of force is allowed when stopping a threat to your life. Your property is not your life. > The vast majority of self-defense situations involve the threat of simple material loss What are you citing here?