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to be fair every OS can and does do telemetry, say nothing about each software application calling back home in a similar way - such feedback helps speed up imp

to be fair every OS can and does do telemetry, say nothing about each software application calling back home in a similar way - such feedback helps speed up improvements however linux OS makes explicit notice of this and its simple to disable

salawat 8y ago
Which is why of all of those the only one that does it remotely right is Linux. Developers and businesses in particular have grown complacent with flagrant and repeated usurpation of their user's expectations of privacy. It needs to stop.
msla 8y ago
Saying "Linux does telemetry" is wrong. I'm not usually one of those "Linux is just a kernel!" types, but, in this case, it's very important to distinguish between the kernel, which does no telemetry, and the whole enchilada, which might. In short: If you can find me any on-by-default telemetry in Slackware, I'd be very interested.
justinclift 8y ago
> such feedback helps speed up improvements Recent MS "improvements" indicate things should not have been sped up.
TangoTrotFox 8y ago
There is 0 opt-out telemetry in most (all?) major flavors of Linux. But there's an even more important issue here. Even if there were some form of telemetry in Linux you'd be able to see exactly what it's collecting and where it's sending it since the OS itself is open source. I do not think many people are mostly okayish with purely diagnostic telemetry, but it's not clear exactly what Microsoft is collecting and their transition to a sort of 'free to play' style of OS does not lead one to the most optimistic views for either the type data they're harvesting, or their intended use for such data.
- mschuster91 8y ago
  > Even if there were some form of telemetry in Linux At least for Debian, at install time it does ask you if you want to participate in the "popularity contest" apt telemetry. But, on the other hand, it's opt-in with the "no" option preselected.

salawat 8y ago

Which is why of all of those the only one that does it remotely right is Linux. Developers and businesses in particular have grown complacent with flagrant and repeated usurpation of their user's expectations of privacy. It needs to stop.

msla 8y ago

Saying "Linux does telemetry" is wrong. I'm not usually one of those "Linux is just a kernel!" types, but, in this case, it's very important to distinguish between the kernel, which does no telemetry, and the whole enchilada, which might. In short: If you can find me any on-by-default telemetry in Slackware, I'd be very interested.

justinclift 8y ago

> such feedback helps speed up improvements Recent MS "improvements" indicate things should not have been sped up.

TangoTrotFox 8y ago

There is 0 opt-out telemetry in most (all?) major flavors of Linux. But there's an even more important issue here. Even if there were some form of telemetry in Linux you'd be able to see exactly what it's collecting and where it's sending it since the OS itself is open source. I do not think many people are mostly okayish with purely diagnostic telemetry, but it's not clear exactly what Microsoft is collecting and their transition to a sort of 'free to play' style of OS does not lead one to the most optimistic views for either the type data they're harvesting, or their intended use for such data.

mschuster91 8y ago
> Even if there were some form of telemetry in Linux At least for Debian, at install time it does ask you if you want to participate in the "popularity contest" apt telemetry. But, on the other hand, it's opt-in with the "no" option preselected.